Men Behind the Sun

[vipco]

Thanks Hal, i'll try and pick it up.

[Daemonia]

Man Behind the Sun is a deeply upsetting and profoundly powerful movie. I've only watched it the once and I'll probably never watch it again. However, it's certainly a film that I would urge people to see, if only the once. As for the cat/rats sequence, I'm not entirely convinced of its authenticity, it does look a bit faked and staged. Considering the abysmal treatment of animals in China, I can't really see the director being bothered by it - so the fact he's so coy about it suggests to me that it's not real.

[Someone Weird]

I find 'Men Behind the Sun' a bit too cheesy to be shocking. It's like 'Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS' in some ways. Disturbing in that its based on an actual moment in history, but not so disturbing in execution. A fine piece of exploitation none the less. The autopsy is grim enough though. As for the cat scene - an obvious (but fairly well done, as it still fools gullible people) fake.

[Daemonia]

I also tend to lean towards the belief that the cat/rats scene is a well-sraged fake. The cat looked like it was covered in strawberry jam rather than being caked in blood. That's my opinion, anyway.

I also agree with SW that MBTS comes off as more of an exploitation than some kind of historical document. Personally, I think if the director had wanted to highlight the atrocities visited on the Chinese during WW2, then surely some kind of unflinching documentary would have been a better route - a means of educating people properly rather than dressing it up in the guise of a movie, which is obviously going to be viewed as a piece of entertainment in some quarters, albeit shocking entertainment. The fact that people talk more about how shocking the film is rather than discussing the points it raises or igniting anger in its viewers at the injustices it portrays just goes to prove the point.

[Halloween_22]

Originally Posted by Spengler

I recommend his follow up film Black Sun: The Nanking Massacre. It's less of an exploitation film than MBTS though still excellent and very brutal.

Yeah, 'Black Sun: The Nanking Massacre' is definately worth a watch. It is an extremely violent and brutal film though, the archive footage is very harrowing stuff indeed. I think Tartan released it in the UK on their Grindhouse label at one point, anyone know if it was uncut or not? I have the R1 Unearthed Films release so I'm not sure about the UK one.

[Halloween_22]

Originally Posted by vipco

Thanks Hal, i'll try and pick it up.

You can get it on amazon for £70 mate can't believe its going for that much, I paid around £25 for it I think off ebay about two years ago. That's probably your best bet if you ever fancy picking it up, it's a great collectors item.

[Angel]

Originally Posted by Halloween_22

Yeah, 'Black Sun: The Nanking Massacre' is definately worth a watch. It is an extremely violent and brutal film though, the archive footage is very harrowing stuff indeed. I think Tartan released it in the UK on their Grindhouse label at one point, anyone know if it was uncut or not? I have the R1 Unearthed Films release so I'm not sure about the UK one.

The UK disc is uncut. It came across to me as a seriously made film so there was never any chance of cuts.

[NossB]

Originally Posted by Halloween_22

You can get it on amazon for £70 mate can't believe its going for that much, I paid around £25 for it I think off ebay about two years ago. That's probably your best bet if you ever fancy picking it up, it's a great collectors item.

I wouldn't take any of the prices on Amazon Market places as a reference, the prices go up and down like a whore's knickers depending on which chancer is selling what. I had this version of MBTS in my basket for months at £5 this spring, now it's going for silly money.

This version is about as cheap as I've seen it on Amazon this month, even at £14.99 it's twice the price that it was in September.

[vipco]

Is there a UK release.?
If so is it cut much.?

Hal, Philosify of the knife, is it a UK released film.?

[Halloween_22]

Originally Posted by vipco

Is there a UK release.?
If so is it cut much.?

Hal, Philosify of the knife, is it a UK released film.?

Unfortunately not mate, it's on R1 released by Unearthed Films. I couldn't see it getting passed uncut here, it's one sick, messed up film. Caiman USA are selling it on amazon for around £7, they're a great company and it only takes 3 - 5 days for stuff to arrive from them, I've used them many times before.