SHAM029/SHAM200 - New York Ripper HD: The BBFC Verdict

[bgart13]

When will we get the information about what these extras scenes/bits are? I'm curious about this, as I've never heard of missing bits before (just that scene that was misplaced in BU's & others' editions).

Also, what are the chances of TORSO getting a blu-ray release? I'd like to get the dvd, but if there's even a slight chance, I'll pass for now.

[Sarah@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs

Because NYR (even when there were uncut releases from abroad), was one of the top sellers for Shameless, and I have no doubt that the BD will be as well.

Quite right, it was their second biggest seller.

Originally Posted by dustdevil

You are forgetting that not everyone uses the internet if they did nobody would walk into a high street shop and pay £25 - £30 for a bluray when it's £15 - £18 online,but they do.

Also very true. Not sure if this is still the case but I remember Almar once saying that online sales actually count for very little and the majority of sales come from people purchasing a copy of the film on the high street. A lot of people who buy films like this are buying them as impulse purchases and probably aren't aware that there are other versions out there. And, even if they were aware, they may not have the time or inclination to go searching for these other versions online and so are quite happy to buy a slightly cut version that is easily available in their nearest HMV.

Originally Posted by bgart13

When will we get the information about what these extras scenes/bits are? I'm curious about this, as I've never heard of missing bits before (just that scene that was misplaced in BU's & others' editions).

Also, what are the chances of TORSO getting a blu-ray release? I'd like to get the dvd, but if there's even a slight chance, I'll pass for now.

I've asked Shameless for more details on the additional footage so be patient for a bit longer. They're very busy at the moment but I'm sure they'll let us know as soon as they can.

As for Torso, I really can't say. I can say that there are no plans at the present time for it. Obviously, for the future, it depends on things like whether a good HD master comes available and also whether it would be worth Shameless spending the money to put it out on Blu-ray. With Shameless being such a small company and Blu-rays being expensive to produce, it's a careful balancing act. So, as for that, I just can't say.

There is this thread seeing what already released Shameless titles people would like to see released on Blu-ray. I'd say it's best to make known your desire for Torso there as Shameless do check it.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Steel76

Sorry to complain, but, those cuts are destroying one of the most gruesome murder scenes ever shot by Fulci. Why would people praise a release that has gore cut out of it? And what does the extra seconds not avalible in the Blue-Underground contain? Some extra lines of dialogue or someone entering/leaving the room?

It's posts like this that seem to justify the BBFC's decision as, from what you have said, you are only interested in the gore elements and not in the construction, direction or artistic merits of films at all.

As for "destroying one of the most gruesome murders ever shot by Fulci", the cuts are very brief and have been very well edited by Shameless so, if you didn't know that the film was cut, you wouldn't notice that anything was missing. It isn't ideal that the BBFC decided to cut the film but I, for one, am intrigued to see what Shameless have found to make those who longest ever rele version of New York Ripper ever seen.

[Steel76]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs

It's posts like this that seem to justify the BBFC's decision as, from what you have said, you are only interested in the gore elements and not in the construction, direction or artistic merits of films at all.

Like I´m the only one who enjoys the spectacular gore effects in a Fulci film

I AM interested in the entire films, but come on, do you rather watch censored versions of Fulci´s films or uncut versions? The same goes for ALL italian horror/splatter movies.

Oh well. Nothing you can do about BBFC´s decision.

I´m not gonna rant anymore

I do look forward to what´s coming up next on BD from Shameless.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Steel76

Like I´m the only one who enjoys the spectacular gore effects in a Fulci film

I severely doubt you could call a razor blade slicing through an (obviously) rubber nipple is a spectacular gore effect, but I understand what you're saying.

Originally Posted by Steel76

I AM interested in the entire films, but come on, do you rather watch censored versions of Fulci´s films or uncut versions? The same goes for ALL italian horror/splatter movies.

I would much rather watch an uncut version but, in the case of New York Ripper in the UK, that isn't going to happen.

Originally Posted by Steel76

Oh well. Nothing you can do about BBFC´s decision.

You can appeal it, which Shameless did, but once their decision is final, you'll probably need to wait for a change in their policies and guidelines and/or the director.

Originally Posted by Steel76

I´m not gonna rant anymore

Good! Friendly banter and constructive posts are much more welcome.

Originally Posted by Steel76

I do look forward to what´s coming up next on BD from Shameless.

So do I.

[antmumford]

Originally Posted by Steel76
I do look forward to what´s coming up next on BD from Shameless.

Am I missing something, what's next for Shameless Blu-ray?

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

You're not missing anything as nothing has been announced. That doesn't stop us from debating the titles we would like to see in HD and a nice yellow Blu-ray case, does it?

[bizarre_eye@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by antmumford

Am I missing something, what's next for Shameless Blu-ray?

Hopefully Torso and The Frightened Woman!

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by bizarre_eye

Hopefully Torso and The Frightened Woman!

What about Night Train Murders, What Have They Done to Your Daughters? or something completely new to follow The Strange Case of Mrs Wardh? I would definitely opt for the latter.

[Steel76]

I would even get "Manhattan Baby" if they release it.
Not one of Fulci´s better movies, but still very entertaining

The wires on the dead birds would be even more visible