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TwilightZoneTom@Cult Labs 31st July 2011 10:09 AM

Twilight Zone: The Movie
 
As our good friend Trouserpress said, we've never really talked about Twilight Zone:The Movie before.

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Originally Posted by trouserpress (Post 169715)
So does this thread include The Twilight Zone movie? I've never seen that, but am well aware of it due to the tragic accident on set in the Philippines. It would be great to see that get a decent release one day, with extras reflecting on what happened!

Strange as it may seem, I've never seen it in it's entirety. I've seen the beginning and the end, I've seen Nightmare at 50,000 Feet and It's a Good Life, but not Kick the Can or the controversial segment starring Vic Morrow.

I've always distanced myself from post Serling Zone a bit, but I'm gradually coming round to the idea seeing as I've enjoyed several episodes of the 80's show, so I will get to the movie soon.

Sadly I don't think we'll ever see a release like Trouserpress mentions above. I don't think anyone involved wants to re-open those old wounds. I have two books about the accident and the court case that followed. Here's a link to one of them. I'll be adding the other to the site in due course.

I haven't read these yet, but I have skimmed them. I'm certainly no expert on the case, but it if the book's sleeve notes are to be believed, then it's easy to see why nobody involved will want to go near this again.

"How could this tragedy occur? Was anyone to blame? Outrageous Conduct reveals the facts behind the accident, when skilled movie makers exceeded the bounds of safety; the anxiety when Hollywood closed ranks to protect its own; and the raucous and very public trial, when counter charges of “outrageous conduct” flew between the publicity-conscious district attorney and the furious film director John Landis."

Like you Trouserpress I would like to see an independent documentary about it. In my younger days I did watch the tragic footage. I have no taste for watching such things now, but those images still stick with me. It's horrifying watching Vic Morrow genuinley struggling with the scene, carrying those two kids - and then their lives are just snuffed out in an instant.

Sombre stuff, but I know a lot of people genuinley enjoy the movie. So if I haven't already soured the mood! Post your thoughts on Twilight Zone: The Movie here!

trouserpress 31st July 2011 10:29 AM

Wow! glad to have prompted a new thread on here. I've never seen this film at all, which is odd given my love for TZ and my voracious appetite for old movies in general. I'm looking at ordering that book now, as it sounds fascinating. Is the other book, Special Effects: Disaster at Twilight Zone any good? It's pretty cheap on Amazon marketplace, so I'll probably end up ordering both: Special Effects: Disaster at Twilight Zone : The Tragedy and the Trial: Amazon.co.uk: Ron Labrecque: Books

When I watched The Bronx Warriors, in the excellent Shameless box set, it was both saddening and a bit weird to see Vic Morrow running around and hamming it up, knowing that it would be his last completed movie. Especially given his rather unpleasant end in that film!

I think TZ: The movie is available on DVD for pretty cheap. It's a shame that more isn't made of it given Spielberg and Landis' involvement, but like you said, I doubt either of them want to talk about it. I've met Landis a couple of times. I wonder what would have happened had I brought it up!

The Collector's Room 31st July 2011 03:53 PM

It's usually in HMV's 2 for 10 section if you have a look for it.

I've got mixed feelings about the film as Tom and I have discussed before, some aspects of it are great (Nightmare at 50,000 Feet & the majority of It's a Good Life), but a lot of the film feels like it's missing a spark. Maybe it was the accident or maybe it was a lack of faith in the project, but the film doesn't feel complete.

As also discussed in other threads, I feel the lack of a "Serling type presense" was also missing from the film.

EDIT: I'd also love to take a read of that. If you want Tom I could write up a review for it?

trouserpress 1st August 2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TwilightZoneTom@Cult Labs (Post 169771)

In my younger days I did watch the tragic footage. I have no taste for watching such things now, but those images still stick with me. It's horrifying watching Vic Morrow genuinley struggling with the scene, carrying those two kids - and then their lives are just snuffed out in an instant.

Where did you see this? I didn't think it had ever got out into the public domain. I am pretty curious to see it for myself too!

EDIT: Never mind. Just found it on youtube. That's pretty awful. It must have just been unbelievable for everyone there. It's almost mind-blowing that John Landis just didn't give up filmmaking there and then.

TwilightZoneTom@Cult Labs 1st August 2011 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by trouserpress (Post 169778)
Is the other book, Special Effects: Disaster at Twilight Zone any good? It's pretty cheap on Amazon marketplace, so I'll probably end up ordering both: Special Effects: Disaster at Twilight Zone : The Tragedy and the Trial: Amazon.co.uk: Ron Labrecque: Books

Yes, that's the fella. I haven't read either yet. Really must get around to it.

trouserpress 1st August 2011 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TwilightZoneTom@Cult Labs (Post 170047)
Yes, that's the fella. I haven't read either yet. Really must get around to it.

Just ordered it!

TwilightZoneTom@Cult Labs 1st August 2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Collector's Room (Post 169927)

EDIT: I'd also love to take a read of that. If you want Tom I could write up a review for it?

Absolutely mate. It would take forever for me to get round to it. Nice one.

TwilightZoneTom@Cult Labs 1st August 2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by trouserpress (Post 170055)
Just ordered it!

Look forward to hearing what you think!

the human man 2nd August 2011 09:23 PM

Christ, I've just watched that footage of the accident. That was really terrible. At least they wouldn't have suffered. The movie has always been a favourite of mine apart from the Spielberg 'Kick The Can' segment. Seeing that accident makes me think maybe it should never have been released.

trouserpress 3rd August 2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the human man (Post 170907)
Christ, I've just watched that footage of the accident. That was really terrible. At least they wouldn't have suffered. The movie has always been a favourite of mine apart from the Spielberg 'Kick The Can' segment. Seeing that accident makes me think maybe it should never have been released.

I know, right? I can't get that out of my head now. On reflection, I'm sure everyone involved thought "What the hell were we thinking?" I always thought the helicopter was supposed to be shooting at them, I didn't realise that it was the camera copter. Landis wanted it as close as possible to get a good shot. Hadn't he heard of a zoom lens?


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