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Old 1st August 2010, 04:57 PM
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Chris, A Serbian Film is not just the worst film I've seen this year but one of the most boring and stupid pieces of sh1t I've ever come across. My review:

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I know I am going against my own theory of "if you ignore it, it will go away" but honestly if you ignore it, it will go away. Having met the director in Cannes, at a champagne bash no less, I can tell you he is LOVING this attention. Oh sure, in interviews he'll try and say this is a film about Serbia etc but if you want to learn about Serbia you won't learn a damn thing from this film. This is a long, desperate cry for attention - which is what any halfwit who films a baby being raped wants. Let's see some of the money the people behind this are oh so happy to be making donated to victims of sexual abuse whom this film is so happy to exploit for a few pennies (or those who suffered in the war - whom this guy clearly cares so much about).

And no the BBFC won't pass it uncut but the job has already been done and the mug has gotten his 15 minutes of fame. Depressing.

Human Centipede is a better movie, though - albeit with some bad acting and not much going on. It's still fairly gripping though. I found it hard to turn away and definitely wanted to see how it was going to conclude. With A Serbian Film I wanted to fast-wind.
I have to admit, I'm not drawn to see this at all. Part of me is slightly curious, but I think I'm going to pass. There's some stuff I just can't class as 'entertainment', and these days I lean more towards escapism rather than confrontationality. I don't mind challenging films now and again but, call me uncultured or whatever, but I'd rather see slick gunplay, car crashes and explosions these days. I'm also bored with the so-called 'torture porn' strand of films too. They never seem to offer anything new. The first Saw was a novel idea, but the series has just become sillier and more improbable as it goes along. You could say that about most horror franchises, but the thing with Saw is that it's meant to be gritty and very real-world, therefore it stretches credibility more than something like the Elm Street series, because they didn't have a probable scenario to begin with, existing in the realm of the fantastic. As I get older I'm all too aware of the horrors of the world, so I don't really need a film to show me how horrible the world can be. No, I'd rather be entertained, uncouth man that I am.

I just don't feel the need anymore to see the new 'most extreme movie ever' whenever one comes along. I've read a lot about A Serbian Movie and it's not something that appeals to my tastes, I'm afraid.
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Old 1st August 2010, 05:14 PM
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I have to admit, I'm not drawn to see this at all. Part of me is slightly curious, but I think I'm going to pass. There's some stuff I just can't class as 'entertainment', and these days I lean more towards escapism rather than confrontationality. I don't mind challenging films now and again but, call me uncultured or whatever, but I'd rather see slick gunplay, car crashes and explosions these days. I'm also bored with the so-called 'torture porn' strand of films too. They never seem to offer anything new. The first Saw was a novel idea, but the series has just become sillier and more improbable as it goes along. You could say that about most horror franchises, but the thing with Saw is that it's meant to be gritty and very real-world, therefore it stretches credibility more than something like the Elm Street series, because they didn't have a probable scenario to begin with, existing in the realm of the fantastic. As I get older I'm all too aware of the horrors of the world, so I don't really need a film to show me how horrible the world can be. No, I'd rather be entertained, uncouth man that I am.

I just don't feel the need anymore to see the new 'most extreme movie ever' whenever one comes along. I've read a lot about A Serbian Movie and it's not something that appeals to my tastes, I'm afraid.


I agree i want to be entertained in my films not disturbed etc. some films i know i dont want to watch but only reason i do is to see what all the fuss is about then sometimes i come away wishing i hadnt, like u said torture porn etc just aint my cup of tea at all
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Old 1st August 2010, 09:16 PM
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I agree with Calum and Daemonia about Serbian, I've seen it because my curiosity got the better of me and the trailer made it look better than it actually was. Yes, it is fairly well made (filmed on an HD Red camera), the lead actor is good, but at the end what was the point of it? I'm all for something being shocking if it has either something to say (it doesn't, if you knew nothing about Serbia before, you will still know nothing come the end) or it's a bit of fun or tongue in cheek (SAW or Hostel)

I feel the director is doing this to gain attention and then head to Hollywood to make a remake of something that doesn't need to be remade!

A lot of the film makes no sense, like Milos supposedly needing money and his wife saying that they need to move when it seems they live in nice middle class surroundings

Plus Vukmir, the shady snuff master, leaves the tapes of what's been filmed just lying around, surely if you were doing something so taboo as snuff porn you'd put it under lock and key.

These are just a couple of points that negates the films supposed intelligence. It takes itself too seriously as well, has very little to actually say and you are really only waiting to see what the next gore setpiece is!

It paints a bad picture of Serbia too, which by all accounts is a beautiful country. The representaion here is as useless as the image "Hostel" depicts of Slovakia and that "Hannibal" depicts of the late nights street of Florence!

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Old 2nd August 2010, 07:00 AM
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I've heard that it's been picked up for UK theatrical distribution, so the BBFC will almost definitely get to see it. Be interesting to see what they make of it. Can't see it being passed uncut, but you never know. I haven't seen it myself so I can't really comment on it.
Thanks Daemonia.

A film classification wil be more interesting - No VRA!

It will be interesting to see on what grounds it will be cut, (the OPA seems unlikely) and exactly how much. A rejection though appears to be out of the question. The last film to suffer extensive cuts at the cinema was Ichi the Killer in 2002. Whether Serbian film would then require further cuts for DVD remains to be seen. Again though highly unlikely I would have thought, this used to be common practise with the BBFC. making cuts on film and then demanding further cuts for video. Not something they really do anymore - Baise Moi being the last example nearly 10 years ago.

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Old 2nd August 2010, 07:42 PM
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The question will be in which light the BBFC sees the film. If they get the artsy-way of the movie they might pass it uncut, if not they might reject it ... and of course cuts could also be made.

A lot of possibilities, let's not waste our time on speculation and wait/hope for a positive BBFC rating.
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The question will be in which light the BBFC sees the film. If they get the artsy-way of the movie they might pass it uncut, if not they might reject it ... and of course cuts could also be made.

A lot of possibilities, let's not waste our time on speculation and wait/hope for a positive BBFC rating.
Trust me, this is not going through the BBFC unrated (and that's not a recommendation either - this film is all about cheap shock tactics. Don't be hoodwinked).
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Old 2nd August 2010, 11:37 PM
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If what I've read about the film and the contentious material it contains is true, I'd be very, very surprised if the BBFC pass it uncut. From what I can make out (and I've not seen it, so I'm only going on what I've read and the impressions I get) the central theme of the film is extreme pornography and sexual violence for the camera. With that in mind, the BBFC will have to cut it and tone down the more extreme elements. If they do pass it uncut, I'd like to know why? That is to say, they just cut I Spit On Your Grave by nearly 3 minutes, so they can't do that and then pass the even more distasteful Serbian Film uncut. If they do, I'll really be baffled. Personally, I think it might possibly be another candidate for a rejection.
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Old 3rd August 2010, 08:12 AM
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The BBFC will only reject a film if it contains wall to wall objectionable material. Sounds to me that Serbian Film is quite cuttable. The distributor will know only too well that the BBFC will cut it so I'm sure they will be prepared for the cuts list.
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Old 3rd August 2010, 06:23 PM
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I haven't read through all of this topic but a vast majority I have read. Grotesque isn't half as extreme as the rejection makes it seem. Yes, it's gory but not as bad as it sounds. I have the 'unrated' version of it, and to be honest, some of the would-be gory scenes are quite masked, such as the eye gouging, castration, and so on. You don't even see the guy getting castrated, but you do see him getting nails hammered in his ... balls. I'm half and half with the BBFC rejecting it - they could have cut the sexual violence out (forced masturbation, and nipple slicing and stripping) and still have left a vast majority of the movie intact. I assume that's why the CA read "Very strong gory violence" Perhaps they were considering cutting it? But then there's the fact that the movie really has no storyline and focuses solely on two people being mutilated and killed. That is where the movie differs a lot in contrast with Saw or Hostel, or other extreme gory movies the BBFC have passed.

I also own the Guinea Pig boxset, and part 1 and 2 of it is in pretty much the same light as Grotesque. Especially part 2. Man captures woman > tortures > mutilates > gory death > ending. So I can't see the first two Guinea Pigs passing, because there's no contextual justification for the violence shown. They both focus more on the torture rather than character development or any other aspects.
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Old 3rd August 2010, 11:35 PM
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Serbian Film wasnt great by any stretch and it was over hyped.
It was better then August Underground IMO.
Not as gory as Mordum I think, SF had the baby scene and the child rape which was its "shock" moments.
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