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Demdike@Cult Labs 3rd May 2011 04:21 PM

Dario Argento's Dracula Anticipation Thread
 
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This is the first poster for Dracula 3d as directed by Dario Argento.

It stars Rutger Hauer as Van Helsing, as usual Asia Argento has a lead role. The film is said to be very faithfull to the novel.

In my opinion the poster is a little underwhelming. What are your thoughts on the poster and the film, do we need another version of Dracula, if we do is Dario a good choice after his version of another classic novel in Phantom of the Opera.

bizarre_eye@Cult Labs 3rd May 2011 04:27 PM

I completely agree with you on the poster Demdike - it's completely dull and uninspiring.

As for the film, it will be great to see how the Italian maestro handles the Dracula legend (although I'm hoping that we won't see another Phantom of the Opera!). I think the quality of the film will come down to how much creative control Argento has, coupled with the quality of acting talent available - Hauer is a solid performer, so this one may surprise, but hopefully not shock! :eek:

Argentofan 3rd May 2011 05:16 PM

I'm on the fence with this. Not really looking forward to it.

Hammer time 10th May 2011 11:45 PM

From the clips i have seen on the net this looks BAD,Full of awful CGI and very cheap looking

Prince_Vajda 11th May 2011 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bizarre_eye@Cult Labs (Post 147788)
I completely agree with you on the poster Demdike - it's completely dull and uninspiring.

As for the film, it will be great to see how the Italian maestro handles the Dracula legend (although I'm hoping that we won't see another Phantom of the Opera!). I think the quality of the film will come down to how much creative control Argento has, coupled with the quality of acting talent available - Hauer is a solid performer, so this one may surprise, but hopefully not shock! :eek:

Well, it is a promo poster artwork after all, and no final poster to seduce any possible cinema goers. So the final poster will look better, I guess.

Very true, bizarre_eye. Hauer is a remarkable face and it would be nice to see a real badass Abraham Van Helsing; I hope the script does give Hauer some one liners as I think that a subtle and sophisticated Van Helsing would not fit Hauer.

Im one of the few who actually liked his Mother of Tears. It had suspense, gory effects and the lovely Asia in the lead. Three pros in my book. Of course, Savini instead of CGI would have been better - I was quite happy with the end result, though, especially as I do not expect clever plots from an Argento flick. ;)

However, I personally would love Argento to pick up his old Suspiria and especially his Inferno-style - I like his visual ideas on those two very much and I missed it in MoT. :nod: But I doubt we will see such stylish movies nowadays - as I also think that the general audience would not accept such movies today and that also Argento may not be capable of directing that way anymore. :(

Greetings!

PS: Found another artwork. Still no classy thing, but better than the one already posted, I'd say.

Demdike@Cult Labs 11th May 2011 10:22 AM

Thats a better poster.

Demoncrat 11th May 2011 10:28 AM

hmm. will asia be playing mina or what? hopefully not.;)

Prince_Vajda 11th May 2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thehamish (Post 149754)
hmm. will asia be playing mina or what? hopefully not.;)

I think she still looks quite handsome. Thirty-five years seems to be the beginning of a tough age for most women, though. ;)

What? What do you say? I can't hear you! Ah! Now! Her acting abilities? Well, it's either acting or stunning beauty (pun intended).:lol:

Greetings!

Demdike@Cult Labs 11th May 2011 02:39 PM

She doesn't really do it for me on either level.

Just average.

I remember thinking during Mother of Tears how her co-star was far sexier than Asia herself, then sadly she was brutally murdered before we left the museum.

Prince_Vajda 11th May 2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 149813)
She doesn't really do it for me on either level.

Just average.

I remember thinking during Mother of Tears how her co-star was far sexier than Asia herself, then sadly she was brutally murdered before we left the museum.

I still think she's very alluring. :tongue1:

But as you might know:
De gustibus non disputandum. ;)

Greetings!

stefanmetal 11th May 2011 06:39 PM

The posters seem a bit generic. To be honest, do we really need another adptation of Dracula? I think not.

Prince_Vajda 11th May 2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stefanmetal (Post 149862)
To be honest, do we really need another adptation of Dracula? I think not.

Well, we had Dracula (1931) with the fabulous Lugosi (and with Edward Van Sloan, the best Van Helsing ever), we had the nice Hammer Dracula (1958) with Lee/Cushing, we had the amiable spoof Dracula - Dead and Loving It... to keep it short: I agree with you, there's no real need for a new one. :cool:

Greetings!

PaulD 15th May 2011 09:45 AM

Lamberto Bava, Claudio Simonetti and Sergio Stivaletti to work on Dracula 3D. Plus Demons 3 on the way, pending financing!

Prince_Vajda 15th May 2011 03:39 PM

That's good news - Argento reunited with his old pals should make the movie a nice thing to wait for. :nod:

Just a little announcement. I do not know how often I will be active here again as I had to invest too much time and too many posts in explaining the basics of irony and sarcasm the last few days - which is off-topic and not a funny thing to do. I most certainly am the first to step in if somebody is offended by anybody else but remarks that are meant funny (or maybe sometimes slightly nasty) should be allowed.
I know that most of the quarrels have been misunderstandings. So I am not angry at anybody.
But delivering too many posts that could possibly be misunderstood doesn't add anything to this forum. So, in order to keep the forum peaceful and on-topic, I decide to reduce my number of posts at least for a while - I don't think that anyone will miss my comments as Nos and many others here are doing a great job in entertaining and informing us, as well as moderating this forum - a big "Thanks" from me! :rockon:


Back to the topic: let's look forward to Dracula 3D!

Greetings!

Daemonia 16th May 2011 11:17 AM

Oh please, don't be so melodramatic, Prince. That's a bit of an overreaction, don't you think? No-one wants you to leave - and you know it.

As for Dario's Dracula. It's probably best to wait and see what the finished film is like, but after the travesty that was Phantom of the Opera, I have my reservations. But I'll reserve judgment until I've seen it for myself, which I surely will at some point.

Beyond72 17th May 2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 147786)
This is the first poster for Dracula 3d as directed by Dario Argento.

It stars Rutger Hauer as Van Helsing, as usual Asia Argento has a lead role. The film is said to be very faithfull to the novel.

In my opinion the poster is a little underwhelming. What are your thoughts on the poster and the film, do we need another version of Dracula, if we do is Dario a good choice after his version of another classic novel in Phantom of the Opera.

I don't mind the poster actually, reminds me of the Castlevania video games.

If I believed Argento could bring some of the style of Suspira & Inferno to the Dracula legend I'd be excited but after MOT I'm not. :(

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 17th May 2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Daemonia (Post 151156)
Oh please, don't be so melodramatic, Prince. That's a bit of an overreaction, don't you think? No-one wants you to leave - and you know it.

As for Dario's Dracula. It's probably best to wait and see what the finished film is like, but after the travesty that was Phantom of the Opera, I have my reservations. But I'll reserve judgment until I've seen it for myself, which I surely will at some point.

When compared to POTO Dae,it has got to be great!

Let's just say I'll be looking at this one with 'interest'....:nod:

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 17th May 2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Daemonia (Post 151156)
Oh please, don't be so melodramatic, Prince. That's a bit of an overreaction, don't you think? No-one wants you to leave - and you know it.

As for Dario's Dracula. It's probably best to wait and see what the finished film is like, but after the travesty that was Phantom of the Opera, I have my reservations. But I'll reserve judgment until I've seen it for myself, which I surely will at some point.

When compared to POTO Dae,it has got to be great!

Let's just say I'll be looking at this one with 'interest'....:nod:

And yeah,Asia's still hot!

PaulD 10th June 2011 09:25 PM

If any of you are all Twittered-up I'd recommend following Asia Argento as she's currently tweeting a lot about the production of Dracula 3D and posting a few pictures.


Dread Central have a piece on it here

Gojirosan 10th June 2011 09:41 PM

I'm quite looking forward to this. I've not thought Argento's later films to be that bad (the only one I really thought was bad was Phantom Of The Opera) and think this has got a fantastic cast.

oaxaca 17th June 2011 10:58 AM

I really need to see Mother of Tears! I love a film that divides opinion...

As for this new Dracula, I think there is room for another (faithful) adaptation of the dracula book, and Argento deserves to have a crack at it, although I worry he may kitsch it up a bit :p I loved Coppola's Dracula, and some of the ones that preceded it (Particularly Herzog's Nosferatu & Hammer's Dracula), so I'm hoping this latest take will do it justice. I think Asia can hold herself well as a protagonist, I though was superb in Stendhal Syndrome for example.

PaulD 9th July 2011 06:25 PM

Alan Jones has a blog with little bits of info on Dracula 3D which can be found here for those interested. Ha, wish I'd tweeted a comment about the Tenebrae commentary to him now on the offchance he'd showen Argento.

Argentofan 10th July 2011 04:41 PM

DRACULA3D

Make Them Die Slowly 17th December 2011 05:46 PM

There's a trailer for this floating round the net at the moment. The effects have yet to be completed but f*ck me, it looks bloody awful.

dream demon 17th December 2011 06:10 PM

Here is the trailer -

Dracula Movie Trailor - YouTube

Gojirosan 17th December 2011 06:16 PM

That looks really interesting. Hope we get a cinema release here (not very likely!).

Phurious 17th December 2011 06:54 PM

Wow - so he's taken the plunge and finally opted to do an out and out comedy.

It's a shame that Hauer has already done the best vampire comedy: Buffy The Vampire Slayer

(I genuinely mean that last statement ;) )

Slippery Jack 17th December 2011 07:10 PM

....wow....just, wow... :shocked:

I hope those 'Effects work in progress' captions make it to the finished film :nod:

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Originally Posted by Phurious (Post 204205)
It's a shame that Hauer has already done the best vampire comedy: Buffy The Vampire Slayer

(I genuinely mean that last statement ;) )

Better than Vampire's Kiss :eek: ...?

Prince_Vajda 17th December 2011 07:11 PM

Well, it doesn't look really bad. But...and that's a big 'but'... why using this unnecessary 3D, and why using so much (crappy!) CGI? :tsk: :doh: :crazy: :mmph:

I guess that I will watch (and buy) it, as I am huge fan of both Hauer and Mr Argento's daughter Asia... but it looks a bit as if Argento has missed another chance to create an outstanding post-1985 movie... :sad:

Greetings!

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th December 2011 08:17 PM

Don't judge a film on a workprint trailer with all the tweaks left out.

Imagine Suspiria without the Goblin soundtrack or different lighting used.

Wait until you at least see a proper trailer or have, better still ,actually watched the film itself.

Prince_Vajda 17th December 2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 204218)
Don't judge a film on a workprint trailer with all the tweaks left out.

Imagine Suspiria without the Goblin soundtrack or different lighting used.

Wait until you at least see a proper trailer or have, better still ,actually watched the film itself.

Of course, a workprint trailer is not the final product.

But I guess that a proper trailer and the final movie will contain even more CGI - so I'm definitely not in high spirits. :tsk:

Greetings!

Phurious 17th December 2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Slippery Jack (Post 204207)
....wow....just, wow... :shocked:

I hope those 'Effects work in progress' captions make it to the finished film :nod:



Better than Vampire's Kiss :eek: ...?

Vampire's Kiss wasn't intentional, but it is a far superior film, that being said I genuinely love Buffy the movie.

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th December 2011 08:28 PM

Both The Dark Side and Fangoria say the 3D work is excellent, not only in things coming out of the screen but the sheer depth of the production.

The Dark Side has been less than complimentary about Dario's more recent offerings if people think they are biased.

Phurious 17th December 2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 204218)
Don't judge a film on a workprint trailer with all the tweaks left out.

Imagine Suspiria without the Goblin soundtrack or different lighting used.

Wait until you at least see a proper trailer or have, better still ,actually watched the film itself.

I'm judging the trailer's tone, not the film.

I know it's absolutely pointless to judge a movie by it's trailer, even more so a workprint, but come on, everyone's gotta have an inward smirk at a giant praying mantis ;)

Prince_Vajda 17th December 2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 204222)
Both The Dark Side and Fangoria say the 3D work is excellent, not only in things coming out of the screen but the sheer depth of the production.

The Dark Side has been less than complimentary about Dario's more recent offerings if people think they are biased.

I'm not criticising the quality of the 3D effects - I simply don't think that they're necessary! But that's just my personal opinion, and I definitely understand that there are quite a lot of people who love gimmicks like 3D and plenty of CGI. :nod:

I was hoping for a Hammer-style remake of Dracula, with some of Argento's trademarks like interesting colours, and harsh and detailed murder sets - but I guess this movie is not aimed at such an audience. :sad:

I will check it out, that's for sure - but I fear that I will be disappointed.

Greetings!

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th December 2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phurious (Post 204225)
everyone's gotta have an inward smirk at a giant praying mantis ;)

Don't be sarcastic now, everyone remembers it from the novel.:lol:

Gojirosan 17th December 2011 09:16 PM

I thought the sets and locations looked great. I also really liked the giant praying mantis!

It's the merest of tasters. And I found it interesting.

stefanmetal 17th December 2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 204218)
Don't judge a film on a workprint trailer with all the tweaks left out.

Imagine Suspiria without the Goblin soundtrack or different lighting used.

Wait until you at least see a proper trailer or have, better still ,actually watched the film itself.

I haven't even watched the trailer yet and I expect it will be shii-iite.

stefanmetal 17th December 2011 10:42 PM

Fookin ell. Just watched it. If I knew he was tryin to make an all an all out comedy I'd have backed him all the way. Absolutely pissin myself.

Slippery Jack 17th December 2011 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 204218)
Don't judge a film on a workprint trailer with all the tweaks left out.

Imagine Suspiria without the Goblin soundtrack or different lighting used.

I reckon that trailer footage is beyond tweaking into quality material... unless there is a way of tweaking the camera angles / lighting / set design / performances in post...? ;)


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