[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by suziginajackson

I think that there are a lot of Crue fans who don't know much about Alice

Crue haven't been 'glam' since circa 1986 - between the 'Theatre of Pain' and 'Girls Girls Girls' LPs. Nowadays, they are more 'sleaze rock'

Although I have seen Nirvana, Mudhoney, Babes in Toyland, I really don't know much about the whole 'Grunge' movement. Similarly, although I might know the name 'Rammstein', Slipknot' and 'Limp Biscuit', I really don't know a lot about the music they perform

My 'formative' years were 1980 - 1990 (i.e the NWOBHM and the birth of thrash). However, because I was so narrow-minded back in those days, there are a lot of rock bands that I didn't give the time of day to, because they didn't have a 'traditional English sound', or they didn't play 'a million miles an hour'!

To be honest, during this time, I discounted Alice as a good artist for the simple reason he didn't fit in with the two examples above!

Now I have 'grown up', I am more willing to listen to different bands, but I am sure there are still people who are like the person I used to be

Oh - a lot of people like Mutley Crow because of the 'tits' - witness the Tommy-Cam segment on the 'Carnival of Sins' DVD. Alice is much more mature than that!

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

Don't take this the wrong way please as it's not meant to be an insult but your use of narrow minded does seem a perfect fit

No offense taken, because I admit that I was very narrow-minded back in the day. However, age has now taken it's toll, and I am more than happy to hold my hands up and admit that I was wrong - oh, the innocence of youth!

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

You don't like new Who because it's not old Who as an example.

I do like Nu-Who, but I don't think it's as good as Classic-Who. It used to be about good story telling, and now it is about big budget SFX, and 'who-can-we-get-for-the-celebrity-guest-star-this-week'!

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

Every rock fan i know has always moved with the times and music, whilst also sticking by their old favourites. Your dismissal of most things that aren't The Who or Alice does tend to work against you at times

As stated above, I HAVE moved on. There was a time when I was not a fan of Alice, and I didn't like The Who - they were a MOD band, and I was a rocker! Blame school peer-pressure (I was the only rocker in a school full of MODS and skinheads, so I wouldn't like their music on principal). Again, I am more than willing to admit that I was wrong with this attitude. Nowadays, the music I do not listen to are than bands I loved during the 80's - Bathory, Venom, Possessed, Celtic Frost etc

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

If people just like Crue because of the tits as you put it, then they may as well just listen to rap.

And I'm sure they do, the same way that some metalheads like rap - Faith No More, Beastie Boys, Run DMC etc

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

I've probably phrased it all very badly, but absolutely no insult is intended Suzi.

As I mentioned, none taken

Incidentally, I used to be a big fan of the Crow. I have the 'Too Fast For Love' vinyl release (on the original Leathür Records label), the original gatefold release of 'Shout At The Devil', Theatre of Pain, Girls, Girls, Girls and Dr. Feelgood and the aforementioned 'Carnival of Sins' DVD