Now we're talking, for everyday TV off-air recording TDK TV 180/240 (which I could get cheap, 10 for £5) but for music it had to be TDK HG or HGE (those I could get 10 for £10) even better was you could record spoken word/drama at LP so whole series of Radio 4 stuff like Hitch-Hikers Guide or Sherlock Holmes could easily fit on 1 tape, Damn, you've got me all nostalgic now