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Old 6th June 2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 42ndStreetFreak View Post
I'd love to know how many whiny ****ers own "Creepshow".
Makes "Cannibal Holocaust" look like a PETA approved film with the amount of cockroaches they must have killed on set.
Let's keep this discussion respectful and civil please.

I promised myself I wasn't going to get involved in this:

However, I do pretty much agree with Libretio in that if something is staged for the camera - and involves real animal cruelty - it might be best to err on removal. Let us not forget some people do enjoy scenes of helpless animals being tortured and it's nice to know we don't ponder to such types by having an "anything goes" policy on filmed animal abuse.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/596/EN/UK/

Now would anyone argue for that to be legal and in stores? I'd hope not.

However, I also agree with Deamonia that common sense should be used in some cases and that, if it's a brief horse fall or a quick kill from an old movie (and I don't think the Apocalypse Now example really works - it's a very, very quick kill and a split second image. Also check out the Hearts of Darkness documentary for proof it wasn't staged by Coppola), it's probably worth leaving it in. To be honest, I only really draw the line at something like Cannibal Ferox or Cannibal Holocaust - which are miles removed from a cat eating a mouse in Inferno or the brief squid lunch in Old Boy!

So I err somewhere in the middle of this debate!

And as for the comment Cannibal Holocaust is comparable to Creepshow: are you seriously saying a primate or a sea turtle is comparable to an insect? Either that's centuries of zoological and philosophical research right down the toilet or you've just discovered a new kind of cockroach!

Again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism

Anyway, let's keep things civil here methinks!)