I prefer the more serious Bond portrayals, but most of the films and the actors playing him have good points. Early Sean Connery are still my favs. Timothy Dalton was a great choice after Roger Moore, though I still think he did not get the chance to stay in the role long enough to really prove himself. "Licence To Kill" was gritty and tough with Bond getting realistically battered like never before. Something now echoed with Daniel Craig, who plays it straight, but the style of film making is not the "Bond" purists have come to love. (The Bourne influence is so obvious I'm surprised there hasn't been a law suit.) I even think Roger More was good when he started, but his films just got more rediculous and less interestiong to me as they went on. From "Moonraker" on are a joke to me. As for George Lazenby...... "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" may well be one of the most underrated, but Lazenby was certainly the most under appreciated of all the Bonds. Too many fans were upset by Connery's absence to give him a chance, hence Connery's return for "Diamonds Are Forever". As for Pierce Brosnan..... well he was Bond until the bloody awful "Die Another Day". I just hope the next Daniel Craig effort gets back to the more traditional Bond films, though somehow I can't quite see that happening. :( |
Dalton's tougher Bond is far superior to Daniel Craig's, in my opinion. I really don't like the new Bond films. They don't feel like Bond films to me... decent actioners, but not Bond films. |
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The Living Daylights is on ITV1 tomorrow afternoon. Bet the end credits get shortened again. |
The digital print of From Russia With Love (shown at a local cinema last Sunday) was great. You couldn't see any specks or grain at all, apart from in the stock footage in the airport control tower when Bond arrived in Istanbul. Before From Russia With Love was shown there was a tribute to Cubby Broccolli (it's his 100th anniversary this year) by Sir Roger Moore, followed by a montage of photographs of Cubby Broccolli taken over his career. Played over this montage was Carly Simon's Nobody Does It Better (from The Spy Who Loved Me). Can't wait to see Goldfinger tomorrow and On Here Majesty's Secret Service next Sunday. |
Argh! There was no Cubby tribute shown at my local before FRWL. I have to admit I've always found FLWL terminally boring with the book edging it over the one 'classic' Bond film that sends me to sleep. I can hear the gasps that I could accuse the film of being dull but there we go. That said... I'd only ever seen the film on TV/video/DVD. Seeing it on the big screen finally gave it a lease of life that changed it for me and substantially improved it as an experience. You really need to focus and get absorbed into the atmosphere of it that only the big screen can provide. As such it's great these films are getting a big screen outing. |
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Diamonds Are Forever is probably my least fave official Connery Bond. |
I loved it as a kid but as the years rolled on I started to see how strained it all seemed - really quite a weird effort. It's sold gold next to Never Say Never Again though - good god that film is awful. |
What was your favourite Connery Bond, Vince? Diamonds are Forever used to be mine though I now prefer You Only Live Twice. |
Mine is From Russia With Love up until the train fight. The last part of the film (the motorboat chase) is badly out of place for me. Dr No would be my next favourite Connery. Barry's You Only Live Twice score is my 2nd favourite after OHMSS. |
The print quality of Goldfinger today was just like From Russia With Love last Sunday, superb with no grain etc. Shame there were people talking during parts of the film (even though I'd seen the film before it was annoying when I heard someone say "Shocking" just before Bond said it at the end of the pre-credits sequence :mad:. Hope it dosen't happen next Sunday when On Her Majesty's Secret Service is shown (George Lazenby as Bond says "This never happened to the other fella"). |
I went to see Goldfinger as well yesterday and it looked amazing and even though I'd only watched it again on DVD a few months ago still entertained - it oozes confidence in its ability to entertain. No talking in my screening apart from a girl behind me who relished in picking out her popcorn kernel by kernel and giving them long and noisy attention with her mouth open throughout. "The name's 'Creeeeeckle...crunch!" :popcorn: |
"Goldfinger, do you expect me to talk?" "No Mr Bond. I expect you to ..... MUNCH!!" |
Wow - were you there? Such a great line. |
I love the Sunday morning showings at my local cinema. If half a dozen turn up it's a crowd. :popcorn: |
Probably about 20-30 at mine. It's great as it's nice and and cool - got me out of the heat yesterday (where I got nicely burnt and bitten!) |
Almost full house at the Bristol Watershed showing of Goldfinger. I have been surprised by the really good attendance. I saw Diamonds are Forever, You only live twice and Thunderball in Edinburgh at the beginning of May with an audience I could count on my fingers. Looking forward to OHMSS, which is my favourite Bond film. Just finished the book yesterday. |
I love the books - ended up picking up yet more editions on Sunday of the ones I already own just so I could have the different classic covers. you a fan of the books SShaw? |
I'm a huge fan of the books. I read all the Fleming books when I was a teenager (far too long ago), but started rereading them at the beginning of last year (alternating them with the Modesty Blaise books) and am just coming to the end of the series - only Man with the Golden Gun left to read :( I'm constantly surprised by how close the early films are to the books. Scott |
I always liked the book of "The Spy Who Loved Me." Bond is a practically a cameo in that one. Funny enough, I read the whole series in my teens also. :p |
As a Bond fan, I really hate Casino Royale. Not just as a Bond film, but as a film on the whole. I found it to be completely un-engaging, over rated and boring. I'd go as far as to say it's a bad film. It's one of a few films, I've struggled to make it to the end. I've fallen asleep to it twice! |
These are some points I raised about casino Royale on Digital Spy: Casino Royale is by far the worst. It opens up with a needlessly black and white / pretentious opening sequence. The opening credits look cheap and cheesy beyond belief and are coupled with an abysmal theme song. The first quarter of the movie is taken up showing Bond chasing 2 or 3 people whom the viewer has not even been introduced to! As such, the viewer couldn't care less about the chase scenes, because we don't even know who Bond is chasing! The characters Bond chases aren't given any onscreen time before hand. This is just one example of how the movie insists on it's self. It's badly written. There's nothing to draw you in. Then the rest of the movie is taken up with Bond in the boring casino. Which he leaves and go's back into so many times it's like an episode of Frasier or some other crap sitcom. I can just imagine the laugh track playing as Bond re-enters the casino, disappointing Le Chiffre yet again! Much of it doesn't even make any sense. Given the fact the chase scenes are in the first part of the movie, from a story writing point of view, it seems to be written the wrong way around! Casino Royale is one of the few films I’ve had to force myself to sit through until the end. It's just so dull. It's not a Bond film! |
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Personally, I think it's one of the best.. :lol: A welcome diversion from the cheesefest Bond had become and in essence, a lot closer to the books than anything since the early '60's, especially the card game which, for once, is actually based on something from the Casino Royale novel. |
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I love that it's a much closer style to the novels taking itself seriously as a crime action/thriller. Wonderful chase scenes, superbly acted and directed. Was a nice breath of fresh air after the abysmal, cheesey, camp and tacky Die Another Day (my previous comment was a little harsh) :lol: |
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I really liked all the Brosnan films. Admitted Die Another Day was a bit daft in places, the stealth car for one but it was still an exciting action movie. Tomorrow Never Dies has the best pre-credits opening of any Bond film (The Arms Bazarre on the Russian border). Closely followed by the opening of The World is not Enough. |
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Alright, let's just aim my comment at Die Another Day then instead, as it's unfair to judge the others when I've not seen them in a long time. :nod: |
I'm a huge Bond fan, and love all of them except OHMSS, and even that has some brilliant moments. I actually think some of the Connery films are a bit overrated by critics though. After the first three they are not as good in my opinion. Probably next time i see them i'll reverse that opinion .:lol: |
I'd take OHMSS over any Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan Bond movie any day. |
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Also, I know some people like the Dalton films but to me they have the feel of low budget action films forever stuck in an '80's time warp. |
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Die Another Day and Casino Royale are the two Bond movies I hate. Both for completely different reasons. :lol: When I saw Die Another Day, I couldn't believe how bad it was. And didn't consider it a Bond film. To me, the Bond films exist from the Connery era up to Tomorrow Never Dies. |
My most hated are Die Another Day, Moonraker (I even thought it was utter stupidity when I saw it as a kid at the cinema) and Octopussy/For Your Eyes Only. Moore was a crap Bond but you can't get any worse than an ageing crap Bond combined with sheer blandness. |
Although I'm Scottish and it might be expected that Connery would be my fave, my favourite Bond is Roger Moore. They were my favourites as a kid, so it's probably passed on as nostalgia. Although the Connery / Moore era is a bit slow paced and not quite punchy enough by todays standards. I also don't mind the idea of a more serious Bond, I like Licence To Kill. |
Tbh i've only ever seen a select few JB outings from start to finish but have been warming more to the world-saving exploits of 007 over the years so i intend to pay the franchise proper attention sooner or later. I own a variety of JB DVD purchases so i've got plenty to keep me occupied when the time comes.:) |
Tomorrow Never Dies I enjoy this Bond adventure but I have noticed it's always the 1 they play on TV, why is this. I know at xmas they vary it but 95% of the time its Tomorrow Never Dies What are your thoughts on this |
What? Thoughts on the film itself, or the fact that it's on telly all the time? Don't think I've seen it since I had the VHS in a special boxset with a spy camera and mini radio :lol: My memory of the film is permanently tainted by the fact that during the cinema screening, me and my mates were mugged, mid-screening, by a posse of Birmingham gang types :( . . . |
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Yes lol, I think stuff like that when its quiet |
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