We all do.

I'm a fan of this. Weak-ass ending but it's has some great action sequences and a brilliant Bond girl in Michelle Yeoh.

...and the best pre credits sequence of the lot.

I disagree there, actually. Some of my favourites are On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds are Forever and the Living Daylights. Best pre-credit Brosnan for me is Goldeneye.

Tomorrow Never Dies is one of the worst Bond movies ever. After a classic like GoldenEye, I had been expecting another great movie - but the film was a real disappointment. Michelle Yeoh really looks great in it, I agree, but a horrible Bond song, an ugly Bond car (BMW 7 series - a great car for the Federal Reserve chairman, but not for James Bond!), a ridiculous villain, and a stupid story make this Bond a very boring one - and I haven't even mentioned dull Teri Hatcher yet. :fear:

Just my two cents, though - feel free to disagree! :)

Greetings!

That's a great song! Very Bond-esque and the best part of the film as far as I'm concerned :)

TND is far better than World is Not Enough and Due Another Day, IMO.

I enjoyed The World is Not Enough A bit more than TND although I was expecting a bit more out of Robert Carlyle's performance & wasn't particularly enamoured with Denise Richards as a Bond girl, in fact....

Hell Paul! Your right, I've changed my mind. TND is better than TWINE :lol:, but as for Die Another Day. Invisible cars.....

Awful, awful, awful! (& I'm not gonna mention Madonna.... Ahh crap I just did! :doh:)

Carlyle's character was such a wasted opportunity.

I thought TWINE developed the character of James Bond, it proved he had no problems killing women and it was all just part of the job.

Die Another Day began really well, again, developing Bond as a rogue (ish) agent, but it all became too sfx heavy upon reaching Iceland. The sword fight is excellent, both actors look like they really mean it.

Madonna's brief performance is ok, but her song is an abomination.

I didnt mind Tomorrow it was the 3rd Bond film i had seen at the time (the 1st being Licence To Kill and the 2nd was Goldeneye)

TND deserves some credit for the casting of Vincent Schiavelli in a (sadly) minor role :cool: . . .

Same here!

... it also gets plus points for being the first one to be scored by David Arnold, going back to classy John Barry style orchestration after the godawful score that plagued Goldeneye . . .

Jesus! I can't stand Arnold or his music. It seems to me that he breaks out the Bond theme at every opportunity he can (probably no more than the earlier films though, and just my imagination because of my feelings).

Really? I live Arnold's scores and really dig the retro riffs. Was really unimpressed with the usually brilliant Eric Serra and his score for GoldenEye though.

The funny thing about his TND score is that it uses the rejected title song by KD Lang as the main theme running throughout (the one that plays over the end credits). And yeah, doubt the Bond theme features any more than in the older films. Think his music suited the solid, play it safe nature of the Brosnan era. Can't remember what his stuff for the Craig films have been like. To be honest I lost interest in Bond in general after Die Another Day . . .

I find Tomorrow Never Dies enjoyable when I watch it (great pre-credits sequence!) but fairly forgettable afterwards. Goldeneye had a better story and better characters. Eric Serra's score has some beautiful pieces of work within it, but I hate the orchestral samples that he used in places, the tank chase for example. The end song sounds as if it was the intended end title for Leon, as it shares the same theme. If you recall, they used a Sting song "Shape of My Heart" for the Leon end credits. I've not seen this qualified anywhere.
For me, TWIME is the Brosnan James Bond film. It has another exciting opening sequence in the boat chase along the Thames. His relationship with Elecktra echoes that of his relationship with Tracey in OHMSS. I always thought that the writers had done that on purpose but I've never read anything to back that theory up.

For me Serra's score for Goldeneye is ruined because of a lack of use of the Bond theme during the film's action sequences.

By the way, whats TWIME Wayfarer? ;)

..and also because it makes me want to hit mute from the opening fanfare onwards :ack:

Goldeneye opening - YouTube

BTW, guess what's on ITV tonight :lol: . . . ?

Thats what I mean, its always the same Bond film on TV

oops!;)

I think Dalton is the best Bond, with his two films being the two best films in the cannon (currently, I have TLD as my #1), followed by Connery's first two, TND and then YOLT. MR, AVTAK and Craigs first two are my least favourites. As for the actors themselves:


1. Dalton
2. Connery
3. Moore
4. Brosnan
5. Lazenby
6. Craig

I like Moonraker and much prefer it to the dreadful Octopussy and A View To a Kill. The two Dalton Bonds are really excellent and the action in both films are some of the best in the entire canon. Die Another Day I agree is rubbish. The plot makes no sense and what 007 is after I don't know.

Ive ordered the Bond 50 Blu ray set

I actually liked Lazenby. OHMSS is also one of the best Bond films imo. A shame he only did the one film. That was a really stupid decision.

Am watching 'Moonraker' on DVD. Seen it many times before, but surely this HAS to be the movie where Bond 'jumps-the-shark'

What is annoying about this film is the fact that the ones either side of it - 'The Spy Who Loved Me' and 'For Your Eyes Only' are amongst the best of the series

Trying to get my head around the whole Heinenken deal. I can't believe Bond's going from vodka martini to beer.

It's a big shame but considering the film nearly didn't get made with MGM's woes I suppose they haven't much choice these days.

Mind you... Bond isn't blonde, Felix isn't African-American and M isn't a woman so it's all a very different beast now and I'll still take a hard-edged, straighter cold-blooded style over the SFX-laden comedy and unintentional parody it became, whatever he's drinking. :)

Throughout the whole series of Bond films, James drank many a different variety of drink so having a beer in Skyfall is no different.

As quoted from wikipedia:

"Bond's drinking habits mirror those of his creator, Ian Fleming. Fleming as well as Bond throughout the novels had a preference for bourbon. Fleming himself actually had a fondness for gin, drinking as much as a bottle a day; however, he was converted to bourbon at the behest of his doctor who informed him of his failing health.

Otherwise, in the films James Bond normally has a fondness for vodka that is accompanied by product placement for a brand. For instance, Smirnoff was clearly shown in 1997's Tomorrow Never Dies, in which Bond sits drinking a bottle while in his hotel room in Hamburg. Other brands featured in the films have included Absolut vodka, Stolichnaya and Finlandia. In the film GoldenEye, Bond suggests cognac when offered a drink by M, who gives him bourbon instead. In Goldfinger, Bond drinks a mint julep at Auric Goldfinger's Kentucky stud farm; in Thunderball, Largo gives Bond a Rum Collins. Bond is also seen in Quantum of Solace drinking bottled beer when meeting with Felix Leiter in a Bolivian bar. In Die Another Day, Bond drinks a mojito. In Casino Royale, Bond orders a Mount Gay rum with soda. In several of the Bond films, he is known to prefer Bollinger and Dom Perignon champagne. Never primarily a red wine drinker, Bond tended to favour Château Mouton Rothschild; a 1947 vintage with Goldfinger, and half a bottle On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, a 1934 ordered by M in Moonraker, and a ’55 in Diamonds are Forever—where Bond unveiled the assassin Wint posing as a waiter because the latter didn’t know that Mouton-Rothschild is a claret. In the Jeffery Deaver novel Carte Blanche, Bond expresses a knowledge and appreciation of South African wine.

Outside of alcoholic beverages, Bond is said to favour Yin Hao, the highest traditional grade of jasmine tea, and in the novel Live and Let Die Bond expresses his fondness for Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee.

In the novel Moonraker it is noted in the card club Blades, Bond adds a single pinch of black pepper to his glass of vodka, much to M's consternation; he claims it sinks all the poisons to the bottom."

So, in a nutshell, Bond is actually a raging alcoholic and will drink anything!

They should rename the films:

You're Only Pissed Twice
Drunk Another Day
For Your Glass Only
View to a Pub
From Russia with Vodka
Whiskey is Forever
Hammered On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Live and Let Drink
The Man with the Golden Beer Garden
The Barman Who Loved Me
License to Drink

:lol:

Well, everyone has to have a hobby!

Always thought Vodka Martini was a bit of a lightweight's drink anyway. He'd be much more hard if he asked for a Snakebite..

"In a dirty glass"!

I'm not bothered what he drinks.

He'll look cool sipping a Heineken.

I'm presuming so anyway. I doubt he'll take a large guzzle, burp, then wipe his mouth on his sleeve

And what's wrong with that?

:lol:

:lol:

Thats what us commoners do. Not a suave superspy killing machine.

I'm hoping someone brushes past him and he says 'did you spill my pint?'.

It became obvious that Bond and Felix would have to go back to the vodka martini's, as twelve pints every Friday started to take their toll.