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Old 7th August 2012, 01:24 PM
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Just a quick head's up - we'll be running a poll on here shortly on behalf of Arrow, to help pick the artwork for this release! Some keep your zombie loving eyes pealed for that
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Old 7th August 2012, 03:22 PM
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Just a quick head's up - we'll be running a poll on here shortly on behalf of Arrow, to help pick the artwork for this release! Some keep your zombie loving eyes pealed for that
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Poll over(before its begun) \m/
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Old 7th August 2012, 04:56 PM
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AB version which appeared on The Box of Banned(?)
I never saw that version tbh ... so i can't comment. I did notice it had that strange ntsc jerkiness to it though.
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Old 12th August 2012, 09:22 PM
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Yeah, me too.

I don't get why people love grain so much. It's a fault in the film stock. I like it gone.

And when people post screencaps to try to show me what they mean about DNR, I always think they look great!
Me too,get rid of the grain,most of the time it's not meant to be seen.As long as detail is kept I have no problem with grain removal.
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Old 12th August 2012, 09:27 PM
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Me too,get rid of the grain,most of the time it's not meant to be seen.As long as detail is kept I have no problem with grain removal.
You sir, need a slap! It's a fact that grain removal = loss of detail. That is all.
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Old 12th August 2012, 10:50 PM
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You sir, need a slap! It's a fact that grain removal = loss of detail. That is all.
I resemble that remark

I know what you mean with the science bit but a little cleaning doesn't mean all the detail goes,it can actually reveal details,after all is this not what restoration is about ?

Maybe all the high grain ( to the point of distraction ) blurays had dirty transfers,the actual film itself was dirty before being mastered.

All I know is the following ....

Hostel ( or maybe Hostel 2 can't remember which one ) looks horribly grainy

Metropolis ( which was restored frame by frame ) looks freaking awesome.

Mad Max 2 Road Warrior - looks great too

And the Predator blu I have (uk steelbook) looks good to me dunno what all the waxing complaints are about,maybe I got lucky.

After watching the video rant and reading this thread get the feeling that everyone is right and everyone is also wrong.(he praised the 007 releases only for it to be pointed out here that to much dnr was used - unless i read it wrong)

Film grain is a fault/limitation or the chemical process used to make motion pictures using film stock.

When this film is shown in theatres the grain - in my experience - in general is not really visible/noticable.

Blurays are designed to get the best audio/visual experience of movies to be shown at home not in theatres.

It seems that graining seems to show up more visibley on vhs/dvd/bluray meaning its a worse picture than cinema.

Catch 22 - a little "cleaning" or leave a dirty picture at least until technology can catch up with expectations.

I believe technology will catch up.After all when cgi was first being used it stuck out like a sore thumb,now when done correctly no one knows its there.

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Old 13th August 2012, 01:08 AM
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Film stock is grainy by its very nature. Removing grain also removes detail, because the grain IS the detail.
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Old 13th August 2012, 10:37 AM
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This is the italian BD of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly without DNR:


This MGM BD shows how much detail you can kill by using DNR:




Fine detail kicks DNR in the groin!
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Old 13th August 2012, 10:58 AM
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I also thought MGM's BD of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was DNR'd to hell and looked all wrong.

Also, let's not forget that in the 60's and 70's some filmmakers deliberately shot their films with a grainy look in order to create a gritty realism. By removing that grain you're disregarding the director's intentions and you're not seeing it as intended.
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Old 13th August 2012, 10:59 AM
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I also thought MGM's BD of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was DNR'd to hell and looked all wrong.
Yeah, it's pretty bloody bad. The sky's a totally different colour in those 2 screenshots!
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