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Score (Arrow Video) Dual Format

A MAN AND A WOMAN AND A WOMAN AND A MAN AND A MAN AND A WOMAN ETC., ETC



Riding an early 70s wave of ever more liberal big screen morals, Score takes us to the imaginary city of Leisure, where an experienced couple are playing dangerous games of seduction on the swinging scene. They’re taking bets on who can screw who as they play fast and very loose with a newly married couple – Betsy and Eddie – two cute kids who are about to get their world turned upside down...


As the two couples dance around one another and the wine and pot begin to take hold, will the young and naive pair break their vows and succumb to the new morality of their hosts? Will Betsy wear the dog collar and leash? Find out in Metzger’s paean to sexual liberation, softcore Lesbianism and gender-bending erotic freedom!


Special Features:

- High Definition Blu-ray and Standard Definition DVD Presentation

- Brand new high definition restoration of the film – available for the first time in the UK

- Optional English SDH subtitles

- Audio commentary with director Radley Metzger and film historian Michael Bowen

- On the set of Score – a behind the scenes look at the making of Score containing rare footage of Claire Wilber, Lynn Lowry, Cal Culver, Gerald Grant and Radley Metzger

- Keeping Score with Lynn Rowley (The Crazies, Shivers) – a brand new interview with Score’s star

- Original trailers

- Reversible sleeve featuring original and newly illustrated artwork by The Red Dress

- Collector’s booklet featuring writing on the film by Robin Bougie

Release date: 11th February 2013
DVD & Blu-ray
Region B/2
RRP £19.99

ARROW VIDEO'S DUAL FORMAT RELEASE OF SCORE IS AVAILABLE FROM 11TH FEBRUARY 2013. PRE-ORDER YOURS HERE.

I gather the BBFC are still looking at this one? The other two Metzger titles went through uncut last week but there's no sign of this yet.

Other than the art work and the booklet, isn't this the same as the Cult Epics release? If so, it's a good package over all.

Who's Lynn Rowley :) ;)?

Some news from Arrow Video has just come through regarding Score and the BBFC...

Currently no update on Baise Moi is available yet. More info on this to follow.

The BBFC really don't have a clue, do they? So what if there's a gay sex scene? if it's permissible for 18 year olds if they venture into a sex shop, surely it should be if they just venture into HMV...?

I actually find it quite wrong that a gay sex scene is so condemnable, that it counts as a porn, where as lesbian sex scenes are no problem.

I wonder if arrow could appeal through europe?

Its possibly discrimination if the bbfc are letting through 'straight' material but censoring gay sex.


just a thought.


Also if HMV ect are anything like where I work, you need to look 21 to get 18 cert material anyway. Besides I doubt teenagers will become hopelessly corrrupted by something like this.

Having not seen the film I have to ask is the scene itself hardcore in any way though? Or is it really the gay equivalent of scenes which would otherwise make it through unscathed?

It's hardcore featuring the two lead actors having very graphic, real sex.

Thinking about it, there's a gay blowjob scene in Paul Verhoeven's Spetters. That didn't seem to bother the BBFC at all, and neither did the buggery scene in the same film...

That'll be the reason though won't it, not some anti-gay BBFC policy? Or am I being dense?

Just under 7 minutes of cuts according to the BBFC site. Honestly, what's the point of releasing this, who's going to buy it now? 2 minutes 3 seconds removed by the BBFC so it could get an 18 certificate.....and then Arrow chose to remove a further 4 minutes 50 seconds!!!!!! Why the hell would they do that?

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Curious. That really is bizarre.

Off topic but Stephen what app is that you're using in the screenshot?

It's the BBFC app for the iphone.

Aha, didn't know such a thing existed. Going to download it now.

Reading between the lines, I suspect it's a case of Arrow resubmitting the film in Metzger's own alternative edit (which for a long time was by far the better known version of the film), rather than physically cutting 4 minutes 50 seconds themselves.

By a happy coincidence, my review copy turned up today, so I can confirm that this is indeed Metzger's official 'softer' cut - and it's now obvious why Arrow went down this route, because Metzger recorded a commentary specifically for this version, in which (amongst much else) he discusses the differences between this version and the hardcore version.

So I imagine if they'd gone down the BBFC-recommended route, they'd be left with the dilemma of how to edit Metzger's other commentary - or, more likely, they'd be forced to drop it altogether. And since Metzger's commentaries are excellent, and the alternative cut is fully director-approved (and by far the more familiar version of the film), this must have seemed like the most sensible option.

I can live with a few minuets of hard core removied from a film if the director approves of said version. I wasn't gonna cancel my PO for this anyway.

It's probably also worth noting that all the hardcore material is gay - there are heterosexual sequences earlier in the film that seem censored, simply because they're not very explicit, but in fact they appear to have been edited identically in both versions.

As far as I can see, the key (and possibly the only) difference between the two versions affects a lengthy sequence towards the end which intercuts a surprisingly tame lesbian encounter with a startlingly graphic gay one. I haven't done a shot-by-shot comparison with the Cult Labs disc, but I get the impression that this sequence has essentially been replaced by a softer equivalent.

Incidentally, I don't think the BBFC is necessarily being prejudiced here: it's just that the gay stuff is much, much stronger than the heterosexual or lesbian material. Had there been erections, fellatio, 69ing etc. in the other sequences, they'd have run into trouble too.

I see. So in order for the HS scene's to have remained untouched, it would have to have been passed with an R18. Well that would sure damage sale's, also, if I want to watch porn i'll go on the internet. I don't want to watch an art house flick exlusively for the hard core scene. See previous post of mine for condensed opinion etc etc

Yeah, the BBFC site said an uncut R18 was an option.

Not sure Arrow aim to be linked to porn, so smart move on there part.

Still porn, even if it's been removed. Just like Flesh Gordon will always be a porn film in people's minds, even in its soft version (or maby that's just me).

Score would still work dramatically even if all the sex scenes were removed - which, from what I can gather from the commentary, is essentially how it came across in the original stage version.

It's a wittily-scripted drama about social and sexual mores first, erotica very much second. And I wouldn't describe it as porn at all, especially if you're straight: there's really surprisingly little to latch onto in that department (as it were).

maybe someone should ask the BBFC why they passed a film called Shortbus completely uncut. If you don't know the film, it's about sexual exploration and feature many hardcore scenes of gay and straight sex, the gay sex more prominently than the straight. Did they pass this film because it's an 'art' film and not pass Score because it's exploitation?

You just answered your own question Pedro. Yes it was about sexual exploration, the scenes were not there purely to provide sexual titilation, hence it was passed uncut.