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Rhodes 12th May 2011 12:16 PM

it's not based on it, i stand alone is a direct sequel. so if you've seen i stand alone you know the guy is a butcher. i really haven't spoiled anything for you there. watch carne it's great. :)

Demoncrat 12th May 2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhodes (Post 149985)
it's not based on it, i stand alone is a direct sequel. so if you've seen i stand alone you know the guy is a butcher. i really haven't spoiled anything for you there. watch carne it's great. :)

when i get the chance.....

platostotal 13th May 2011 09:21 PM

first saw 'holocaust' back in pre VRA days, late 83 i think, liked it then and only got an uncut version of it few years ago, can't argue that the animal scenes are anything but repugnent...but, what the film has to say is even more relevant today than 30 years ago, give it a shot when it comes out in sep. you can always ff past the turtle scene, i did that myself when i watched it few days ago, only my opinion but it may be seen as a very important genre film indeed, can't say the same about 'ferox' tho, if you find 'holocaust' too much to take best stay clear of lenzi's gore fest, but as i said 'holocaust' deserves a go.

Bringer Of Funerals 29th May 2011 06:55 PM

Here is the Amazon Cannibal Holocaust Debate

Amazon.co.uk: Customer Discussions: Shameless Screen Entertainment has submitted a fully uncut version of Cannibal Holocaust to an advisory board at the BBFC who have advised them that the film would (only) have to be cut by 14 seconds!

adamthehorrorfan 2nd June 2011 01:16 AM

my views on the film being cut are still not any different because I watched the screening for the re-release of Cannibal Holocaust at Cine-Excess and I noticed that even though all the other scenes have been put intact besides the muskrat scene, the turtle and monkey scenes were still censored. I was still disappointed with how the BBFC are still being difficult with the animal cruelty scenes.

PaulD 2nd June 2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by adamthehorrorfan (Post 155100)
my views on the film being cut are still not any different because I watched the screening for the re-release of Cannibal Holocaust at Cine-Excess and I noticed that even though all the other scenes have been put intact besides the muskrat scene, the turtle and monkey scenes were still censored. I was still disappointed with how the BBFC are still being difficult with the animal cruelty scenes.


Was this version not Deodato's new animal cruelty-free though? Since reading that BBC interview with him I'm a bit confused about which version was shown at Cine-Excess since I wasn't there. It was my understanding that 2 versions will be on the Shameless release - the new edit which is cruelty-free and the longer edit which has everything except for the muskrat scene. Is this still going to be the case?

Sarah@Cult Labs 2nd June 2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulD (Post 155119)
Was this version not Deodato's new animal cruelty-free though? Since reading that BBC interview with him I'm a bit confused about which version was shown at Cine-Excess since I wasn't there. It was my understanding that 2 versions will be on the Shameless release - the new edit which is cruelty-free and the longer edit which has everything except for the muskrat scene. Is this still going to be the case?

That's correct, Paul. The version screened at Cine Excess was Deodato's new edit.

The Shameless release will have both versions of the film - the new edit and the long edit.

mikeliriarte 5th June 2011 12:56 PM

Deodato did wrong
 
wait, wait, wait, wait. so they've removed the death of the muskrat but not the tarantula machete scene? this makes no sense. i think the way the film-makers behaved (and it's pretty inarguable that animals were harmed for the purposes of Cannibal Holocaust) is quite disgraceful and it's mainly for this reason that I don't rate the film as highly as some. There are always more creative solutions to these kinds of problems. in terms of censorship and taste, well the BFI have a PG cerificate on a documentary called The Animal Film which is basically a collection of stock footage of experiments conducted on animals. it's truly awful but the fact remains that the audience are quite capable of deciding what is within their boundaries of taste. The Animal Film is designed to be informative which marks it out slightly from Cannibal Holocaust but certainly people are aware of animal cruelty, it's entirely up to them if they want to watch it. however, if it's presented as fictitious (a la Cannibal Holocaust) I think an audience should be made very aware that ANIMALS WERE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS PICTURE because I believe the ethics of the film-makers in this instance are in all the wrong places and they should be judged accordingly.

platostotal 5th June 2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeliriarte (Post 155870)
wait, wait, wait, wait. so they've removed the death of the muskrat but not the tarantula machete scene? this makes no sense. i think the way the film-makers behaved (and it's pretty inarguable that animals were harmed for the purposes of Cannibal Holocaust) is quite disgraceful and it's mainly for this reason that I don't rate the film as highly as some. There are always more creative solutions to these kinds of problems. in terms of censorship and taste, well the BFI have a PG cerificate on a documentary called The Animal Film which is basically a collection of stock footage of experiments conducted on animals. it's truly awful but the fact remains that the audience are quite capable of deciding what is within their boundaries of taste. The Animal Film is designed to be informative which marks it out slightly from Cannibal Holocaust but certainly people are aware of animal cruelty, it's entirely up to them if they want to watch it. however, if it's presented as fictitious (a la Cannibal Holocaust) I think an audience should be made very aware that ANIMALS WERE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS PICTURE because I believe the ethics of the film-makers in this instance are in all the wrong places and they should be judged accordingly.

No one forces you to buy or watch it. An 18 rated notorious video nasty is never gonna be watched by a large portion of the population, so let us sit back and enjoy Deodato' finest. The funny thing is I don't like the animal scenes myself, but I still rate it very highly indeed. But I agree that some will never find it palatable. I used to know a couple of guys involved in animal rights demo's, they would be even more assertive than you. So we'll agree to differ, whatever you do don't watch 'Ferox' you'll find that even more objectionable.

platostotal 5th June 2011 07:35 PM

Big sorry to 'Mikeliriarte' for the above. Forgot this thread was about your opinions and not about 'Holocaust' in general. We should always express ourselves freely here. Me bad, have a like on me.


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