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Old 1st October 2012, 02:33 PM
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Just watch the directors cut that has all animal violence edited out.
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Old 1st October 2012, 02:36 PM
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Just watch the directors cut that has all animal violence edited out.
I could be wrong but isn't there still traces of the animal violence in the director's edit? I'm sure I remember being surprised by how shocking it still was
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I could be wrong but isn't there still traces of the animal violence in the director's edit? I'm sure I remember being surprised by how shocking it still was
yes, there is SOME but it's considerably than i the near uncut edition in the same release. It's litteraly a few second's of the pig scene (I seem to remember and even that's just the kicking. Hard to watch yes but at least it's not what come's next).
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Going off the atrocitieswe commit around the world i would say yes.
So you believe your life is worth less than an animal's? Just curious as to how personal you make that claim.
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So you believe your life is worth less than an animal's? Just curious as to how personal you make that claim.
My real meaning as i think you know is that in some parts of the world all life is worthless.

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Well said Demdike...

The animal violence in Cannibal Holocaust is regrettable because it makes a hypocrite of the film, but it is what it is, and I will only watch the original version even if I throw my gaze away from it during the atrocity stuff. I will readily accept that the film makers were cruel when making Holocaust, but the animal violence in the film has for too long kept it from being recognized as a genuine classic of Italian Cinema. After all the violence is mostly fleeting - a much more disturbing and unwatchable film is Frederick Wiseman's 1974 doc Primate, about sickening animal experimentation - and that's a pro-animal film...

Human nature is a funny business, and we all know that no one here gets turned on by animal atrocities but honestly I could swallow a full strenght Cannibal Holocaust and Africa Addio than say the entirely faked Human Centipede II or The Bunny Game - two films I'll give a wide berth judging from what I heard...
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I've seen The Human Centipede and really enjoyed it. About 90% of violence/horror is implied, which made it much scarier.
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Well said Demdike...

The animal violence in Cannibal Holocaust is regrettable because it makes a hypocrite of the film, but it is what it is, and I will only watch the original version even if I throw my gaze away from it during the atrocity stuff. I will readily accept that the film makers were cruel when making Holocaust, but the animal violence in the film has for too long kept it from being recognized as a genuine classic of Italian Cinema. After all the violence is mostly fleeting - a much more disturbing and unwatchable film is Frederick Wiseman's 1974 doc Primate, about sickening animal experimentation - and that's a pro-animal film...

Human nature is a funny business, and we all know that no one here gets turned on by animal atrocities but honestly I could swallow a full strenght Cannibal Holocaust and Africa Addio than say the entirely faked Human Centipede II or The Bunny Game - two films I'll give a wide berth judging from what I heard...
"The Bunny Game" isn't as bad as it made out to be, it's not dissimilar to Richard Kern's work in imagery and could certainly be seen as a long lost cousin to the Cinema of Transgression scene. That said, it would have made a much better short film than feature length.
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Old 2nd October 2012, 07:13 AM
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That's a great analogy dude, I never thought of that, but you're spot on... At least the Kern stuff is short...

There's a good page of streaming Transgressive stuff here - U B U W E B : Cinema of Transgression

This thread has taken us some places !
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