Almost bought this today, but...
 

Just how much animal violence is in it? I am an animal lover and get pretty disturbed by such scenes. Are they easy to skip past etc. I really want to see this, but if it's difficultly to skip animal cruelty scenes, I might have to give it a miss.

If animal slaughter upsets you, you might be well advised to avoid Cannibal Holocaust. To say that the animal violence is gruesome is putting it mildly, even in the Shameless release. The Grindhouse Releasing set provides an optional version that removes all sight of the animal stuff altogether, so you'd probably find that more to your liking.

I'm personally of the opinion that you need to see it uncut or not at all in order to get the full impact of Deodato's film.

Buy it. Watch it. Hate yourself. Or get the Grindhouse Releasing version with vegan option.

If you mean to fully understand it's notoriety , I agree.
But as a film on it's own merits, I'm not so sure, I saw it cut first and still thought it was a powerful film.
(Without the need for any of the animal stuff)

I watched the uncut edition and that was the 1st time i'd seen the film as i was under the thought of see it uncut or not at all. Hence the version I bought was the 2 disc deluxe collector's edition by ECC and I skipped on buying the Vipco edition as I knew it would be cut - even though the dvd cover claimed differently (saying fully uncut)

I agree that there's no need for the animal violence, but I think that pretending it's not there is not particularly helpful either. It is what it is, as repulsive as some of it is. And I must admit to being baffled as to why the outcry over the animals and not a word about the scenes of real human death and suffering in the Last Road to Hell sequence. Are humans worth less than animals then?

I completely forgot about that scene I haven't seen the film in ages

good point

Going off the atrocitieswe commit around the world i would say yes.

I agree, in that even if you buy/watch an uncut version, you're still giving Ruggero Deodato your money for CH. :tongue1:


Good Point. But maybe, while using that footage was exploitive, it was existing footage after all, so people get upset at the fact, the animal cruelty was done at the hands of the director.

Some of the Road to Hell footage is fake.

er..we know that

In that case, sorry 'We'! Please forgive me for thinking you didn't know.

:D

WE meaning other members of the forum!

Be sure to see this film, it is quite simply a masterpiece, by any standard, not just European Cult Cinema...

Okay I'll get it off of eBay :)

I'm tempted to say Deodato sold his soul to the Devil for Cannibal Holocaust, but he is a talented film maker even if his filmography is patchy - I'd recommed his 1985 jungle flick, Cut and Run...

http://www.critcononline.com/images/cut%20and%20run.jpg

It should be mandatory for every Horror fan to watch Cannibal Holocaust at least once - I did, and I won't watch it again. You'll either love or hate it - or you'll simply acknowledge its film-historic importance.
If you want a Deodato film that you'll revisit in the future because of its brilliance, go for an uncut copy of The House on the Edge of the Park and / or the Shameless release for the special features.

Greetings!

Just bought CH off Amazon.

Excellent stuff dude, it's an incredible film, in another league altogether from Cannibal Ferox or Slave of the Cannibal God. Let us know what you think of it when you get 'round to seeing it...

Deodato took some serious heat for the film and in fairness the fx work is so good, one can't be too surprised at the scandal the film caused - that shot of the girl impaled on the stake still has that how-did-they-do-it quality...

:nod: :madgrin: :hungry:

Greetings!

Which edition of CH did you end up buying?

It was done with a bicycle seat, a bit of balsa wood and some fake blood.It was really basic FX work, but looked incredibly realistic.

You mean its not real!

:D

I know that!

Shameless , 2 disc

Good night everyone, I'm shattered !

Just bought it. There are two versions of it. One is the 1st Ever Directors Edit. What is the difference between the two?

That turtle scene has a OK, I'M NEVER EATING MEAT AGAIN! quality... :lol:

:(

The directors cut has the animal violence toned down although it is still present in the film at times. The other version is full minus 14 seconds (I think) of BBFC cuts to the scene with the muskrat-type creature being killed.

Sorry to be a pain in the arse, but can someone please tell me (in mins and secs) when the animal violence takes place, so I can skip it if I wish to?:pray:

Just watch the directors cut that has all animal violence edited out. ;)

I could be wrong but isn't there still traces of the animal violence in the director's edit? I'm sure I remember being surprised by how shocking it still was

yes, there is SOME but it's considerably than i the near uncut edition in the same release. It's litteraly a few second's of the pig scene (I seem to remember and even that's just the kicking. Hard to watch yes but at least it's not what come's next).

just get the grindhouse dvd and watch the kids version

So you believe your life is worth less than an animal's? Just curious as to how personal you make that claim.

My real meaning as i think you know is that in some parts of the world all life is worthless.

Which is our doing.

Well said Demdike...

The animal violence in Cannibal Holocaust is regrettable because it makes a hypocrite of the film, but it is what it is, and I will only watch the original version even if I throw my gaze away from it during the atrocity stuff. I will readily accept that the film makers were cruel when making Holocaust, but the animal violence in the film has for too long kept it from being recognized as a genuine classic of Italian Cinema. After all the violence is mostly fleeting - a much more disturbing and unwatchable film is Frederick Wiseman's 1974 doc Primate, about sickening animal experimentation - and that's a pro-animal film...

Human nature is a funny business, and we all know that no one here gets turned on by animal atrocities but honestly I could swallow a full strenght Cannibal Holocaust and Africa Addio than say the entirely faked Human Centipede II or The Bunny Game - two films I'll give a wide berth judging from what I heard...

I've seen The Human Centipede and really enjoyed it. About 90% of violence/horror is implied, which made it much scarier.

"The Bunny Game" isn't as bad as it made out to be, it's not dissimilar to Richard Kern's work in imagery and could certainly be seen as a long lost cousin to the Cinema of Transgression scene. That said, it would have made a much better short film than feature length.

That's a great analogy dude, I never thought of that, but you're spot on... At least the Kern stuff is short...

There's a good page of streaming Transgressive stuff here - U B U W E B : Cinema of Transgression

This thread has taken us some places !