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Old 11th December 2012, 12:45 PM
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A couple of old favourites. The BBFC's beloved video not so nasties it would seem.

New York Ripper.

[This scene was considered to be quite
dated and not that shocking compared to modern films. The close up of the nipple being
slashed and the eyeball being cut provoked physical reactions amongst some participants
but the sexualised aspect to the violence was not picked up]


House on the Edge of the Park

[The cutting of the girl’s breasts and body was not seen as shocking]
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A couple of old favourites. The BBFC's beloved video not so nasties it would seem.

New York Ripper.

[This scene was considered to be quite
dated and not that shocking compared to modern films. The close up of the nipple being
slashed and the eyeball being cut provoked physical reactions amongst some participants
but the sexualised aspect to the violence was not picked up]


House on the Edge of the Park

[The cutting of the girl’s breasts and body was not seen as shocking]

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Old 11th December 2012, 12:49 PM
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The subjects found Sex and Zen – Extreme Ecstasy to be funny until the BBFC moderator told them it wasn't.

[When participants first watched this clip, there was a lot of laughter and ridicule of the scene.
When the moderator pointed out the potential damage of a scene of rape turning into
consensual sex, some participants agreed that this could be harmful]
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The subjects found Sex and Zen – Extreme Ecstasy to be funny until the BBFC moderator told them it wasn't.

[When participants first watched this clip, there was a lot of laughter and ridicule of the scene.
When the moderator pointed out the potential damage of a scene of rape turning into
consensual sex, some participants agreed that this could be harmful]
So, basically their answer was coaxed from them by the mod
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A couple of old favourites. The BBFC's beloved video not so nasties it would seem.

New York Ripper.

[This scene was considered to be quite
dated and not that shocking compared to modern films. The close up of the nipple being
slashed and the eyeball being cut provoked physical reactions amongst some participants
but the sexualised aspect to the violence was not picked up]


House on the Edge of the Park

[The cutting of the girl’s breasts and body was not seen as shocking]
True but they just showed scenes from the film and not the whole thing. If the audiences had viewed a few scenes and said there were sexualised aspects to it and it should be banned I'm sure we'd be saying that they should see it in context so the reverse also has to be true I think.
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[Many participants expressed apparently contradictory views which sometimes made it
difficult to analyse their opinions coherently and conclusively.]


Not for the Daily Mail it didn't.
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Just summing up, it really looks like the BBFC didn't learn anything they didn't already know or think for themselves. They will just use it to carry on making their decisions as to what we can or can't watch. For the press to jump on this as something new is ridiculous.

The report's last paragraph.

[This research therefore suggests that while the fundamentals of the BBFC's present policy in
relation to intervention at 18 on the grounds of sexual and sadistic violence are still key and
in line with public expectations, the policy does not currently capture all issues and
consequently may need to be reviewed to bring fully in line with public thinking. The
research suggests that the BBFC sexual and sadistic violence policy should seek to ensure
the right balancing act between key interrelating factors so as to prevent, as far as possible,
the potential harm for members of the public in repeatedly watching films with sexual and
sadistic violence.]


These films will always polarize opinion in the real world, they do on here. Some aren't bothered by them others wish to turn away. Surely horror has always been like that.
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True but they just showed scenes from the film and not the whole thing. If the audiences had viewed a few scenes and said there were sexualised aspects to it and it should be banned I'm sure we'd be saying that they should see it in context so the reverse also has to be true I think.
But they didn't, which i believe is the whole point.
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But they didn't, which i believe is the whole point.
No, I know but what I'm saying is that it would be hypocritical of us to start cheering "haha the focus group didn't see NYR as problematic!" (as seems to be the case with this report) since they only watched a few scenes out of context when if they'd watched the same scenes and taken issue with them we'd undoubtedly say "well they need to see the full thing to judge it in context"
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No, I know but what I'm saying is that it would be hypocritical of us to start cheering "haha the focus group didn't see NYR as problematic!" (as seems to be the case with this report) since they only watched a few scenes out of context when if they'd watched the same scenes and taken issue with them we'd undoubtedly say "well they need to see the full thing to judge it in context"
That's a good point, they would have to have seen the full films and made the same judgement for us to start opening the champagne
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