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Old 11th December 2012, 02:16 PM
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A couple of old favourites. The BBFC's beloved video not so nasties it would seem.

New York Ripper.

[This scene was considered to be quite
dated and not that shocking compared to modern films. The close up of the nipple being
slashed and the eyeball being cut provoked physical reactions amongst some participants
but the sexualised aspect to the violence was not picked up]


House on the Edge of the Park

[The cutting of the girl’s breasts and body was not seen as shocking]
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No, I know but what I'm saying is that it would be hypocritical of us to start cheering "haha the focus group didn't see NYR as problematic!" (as seems to be the case with this report) since they only watched a few scenes out of context when if they'd watched the same scenes and taken issue with them we'd undoubtedly say "well they need to see the full thing to judge it in context"
I was hardly cheering.

Anyway its not worth arguing about really.
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:18 PM
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I was hardly cheering.

Anyway its not worth arguing about really.
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:30 PM
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I had to laugh that they set up a 'helpline' for the people who would have to endure these films. Are people really that fragile? I pissed myself laughing.

The report is biased right from the outset. Anyone who has studied Sociology and studied how to conduct research will know that this piece of shit can't possibly be considered valid. The questions are leading, the panellists are pummelled into submission so that they'll give the required answers. The BBFC and the people who conducted this research should be ashamed of themselves and it should be discredited - along with the team that conducted the resaerch.

Personally, I believe that with new people running the BBFC they wanted to tighten things up and be stricter but needed to validate that move. So they contracted a company to do research - but with the remit that they had to come back with the answers they wanted. Interviewing 35 subjects with little or no experience in the field of horror and extreme cinema is not valid research. Sure, a percentage can be the uninitiated, but surely you need to interview the target audience and find out what they think. The OPA specifically says that you have to take into consideration whether the target will be offended and not just the general public at large. Those who are not into these films would never watch them anyway, which renders their views null and void. How many millions live in this country? So the fate of what millions of people can or can't watch is to be decided by a report from 35 not-very-bright people who couldn't even give articulate answers? It's a sham and it's shameful.

I can perfectly ariculate what I think of these films, which immediately makes me more film literate than the idiots on this panel. And I hope the idiots on that panel read some of the negative feedback and realise how truly moronic the BBFC have made them look. Like that woman who initially said it wasn't acceptable, but let it happen (how can you let it happen, was she there? it's a film you ****ing idiot, nothing has actually happened except a fictional enactment of a scene), then said it was acceptable, but wasn't sure. Make up your ****ing mind.

Shambolic and biased research and the BBFc execpt us to swallow this piece of shit? They can **** off.

As for evil teenage boys - let me tell you, they access far worse stuff directly off the internet if they want to. Rapists, as we all know, need to watch films to learn how to rape and when gangs of men get together - watch out! Isn't that all in this report? It's ****ing laughable.

As for Human Centipede 2 - copy it? Really? REALLY? Who the **** could possibly kidnap a dozen women then stitch them together? I mean....really? Who's going to copy that??
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I'd put that post down as DAEMONIA RANT LEVEL-WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE PEOPLE!

I'm still majorly wound up by all this, adding the fact my ZFE slipcase hasn't arrived, having to deal with a moron on ebay and struggling like **** to fit a new living room light for my parents means I'm in dire need of a beer!
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I'd put that post down as DAEMONIA RANT LEVEL-WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE PEOPLE!

I'm still majorly wound up by all this, adding the fact my ZFE slipcase hasn't arrived, having to deal with a moron on ebay and struggling like **** to fit a new living room light for my parents means I'm in dire need of a beer!
Have that beer, mate. But don't watch a horror film or you might go off the deep end and start to randomly sexually assault everyone around you!

And that Christopher Tookey is a prize prick. What he knows about films you could write on a postage stamp. Does he really believe that Crash brought down the civilised world? What a complete and utter ****wit.

I did laugh at one of the Mail comments that they believed that Steven Segal films were more dangerous.
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And can I just add that at NO POINT during A Serbian Film did I feel even remotely aroused. The disturbing thing is that that woman thinks men would be aroused by it. Is she for ****ing real? She's obviously guilty of misandry right there. But no-one ever talks about misandry, only misogyny. I feel insulted that she would consider all men to be so easily aroused and ready to rape and assault every woman they meet because of watching a film. She obviously believes women are morally and intellectually superior, so we can discredit her as a credible interview subject right from the outset.
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Old 11th December 2012, 03:29 PM
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Whoops clanger time!

Murder Set Pieces.

[A few participants even suggested it could be rated 15 and thought it was only
an 18 because of the nudity. Participants did not have a problem with the level of nudity or
the violence. The only negative comments were that they found the music annoying and the
acting wasn’t very good]
Yes, next they'll be banning films with annoying music. At least that would mean Abba: The Movie would instantly be banned! And for a movie with annoying music and bad acting, look no further than Mama Mia - why weren't they shown that and 'educated' about its potential harm?

It still beggars belief that when shown something and they didn't think it was harmful in their own judgement that they were directed to find it harmful by the researchers. Unbiased research, you say? Does the BBFC think we're all morons who believe everything they say? Did they really think they could pull the wool over our eyes with this study?

If we're heading towards another nasties hysteria, they've made one glaring calculating error. The internet. Things are different now, we can share information, we can respond directly, we won't be silent. To think we'll be silent on this issue is a serious miscalculation on the part of the BBFC.
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From reading the research paper (if it can be termed as such), the line of questioning and whole slant of the investigation is skewed from the outset. Rather than asking 'Are these films potentially harmful?', the question appears to be 'How harmful are these films?' – something which would be refused as a question for an assignment at a sixth form college!
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Looks like i'll be relying on imports even more after this draconian policy kicks in.
Feel sorry for companies like Arrow who will no longer be competitive if huge chunks start being cut from their films.
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When I first heard this news I thought film censorship in the UK would take a step back, but I having considered it I doubt very much anything will change at the Board as it's run now - I mean the BBFC have never been happy with sexualized violence anyway now matter how progressive they have been in recent years so perhaps this news is not worth getting worried over. Of course I would like to see the censoring of films to stop outright, but if I'm honest I passed on recent films like the Human Centipede sequel, Serbian Film, The Bunny Game and Life and Death of a Porno Gang, and I doubt I'll ever see any of them one way or the other...
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