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Prince_Vajda 31st March 2012 02:53 PM

The 'Whodunnit' Thread
 
This thread is dedicated to all movies that have something to do with the question: "Who's the murderer?"

This includes:
- German 'Krimi'
- Giallo
- Slasher
- ...

I'll start off with a pretty extensive look at the German Edgar Wallace 'Krimis' (1959-1972). We'll see that especially - but not only - the last few films of this series blend with the Italian Giallo, the latter being one of the roots of the American Slasher movie.

Expect the first post tomorrow - and feel free to comment on this idea. I'm always open to criticism. :)

Greetings!

Demdike@Cult Labs 31st March 2012 03:34 PM

:lol: If you review at the speed of your "Classic Horror" thread you should start looking at gialli around 2016 :p

:D

:behindsofa: :bolt:

On a serious note, i am quite looking forward to this as i know nothing about the "Krimi" genre and will look to you for ideas as to which of them to pick up as your stills have been gorgeous. :thumb:

Susan Foreman 31st March 2012 03:53 PM

With all due respect...it was the butler who did it!

bizarre_eye@Cult Labs 31st March 2012 04:03 PM

I'm really enjoying your 'Krimi' posts, Prince - so this should make for an interesting thread! :nod: :)

Prince_Vajda 1st April 2012 08:50 PM

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I'd like you to meet a few ladies and gentlemen who are vital to the German Edgar Wallace films.

The Investigators

Joachim Fuchsberger
http://www.wallace-may.de/gregor/schausp/blacky.jpg

Heinz Drache
http://www.wallace-may.de/gregor/schausp/drache.jpg

Siegfried Lowitz
http://moviesection.de/v3/img/datenbank/siegfried.jpg

The Chicks

Karin Dor
http://www.wallace-may.de/chris/personen/karindor.jpg

Brigitte Grothum
http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333312202

Karin Baal
http://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_prod...4/original.jpg

The Crooks

Klaus Kinski
http://www.gq-magazin.de/var/gq/stor...e_portrait.jpg

Pinkas Braun
http://www.filmportal.de/sites/defau..._Pinkas_01.jpg

Harry Wüstenhagen
http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333312663

Fritz Rasp
http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333312786

Ady Berber
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_30zQFJp4...0/PDVD_058.jpg

The Funny Guys

Eddi Arent
http://www.eichwaelder.de/kleinigkei...hw2007-508.JPG

Siegfried Schürenberg
https://www.synchronkartei.de/pics/616.jpg

Hubert von Meyerinck
http://moviesection.de/v3/img/datenbank/hubert.jpg

The Guest Stars

Gert Fröbe
http://moviesection.de/v3/img/datenbank/gert.jpg

Christopher Lee
http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333313047

Elisabeth Flickenschildt
http://www.wallace-may.de/gregor/schausp/flickensch.jpg

Dieter Borsche
http://moviesection.de/v3/img/datenbank/augen1.jpg

...and many more!

Greetings!

Demoncrat 2nd April 2012 09:56 AM

Wow. that pic of the crazed looking skypilot is tempting me, wassit from??:)

Prince_Vajda 2nd April 2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince_Vajda (Post 228026)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demoncrat (Post 228086)
Wow. that pic of the crazed looking skypilot is tempting me, wassit from??:)

Dead Eyes of London. :)

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/226882-post3425.html

Greetings!

Prince_Vajda 2nd April 2012 08:36 PM

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...snap-00001.jpg
Will she be the next victim, or is she only looking for the loo?

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...snap-00156.jpg
Come on! Who farted?

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'If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.

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In tomorrow's review you'll find out!

Der Frosch mit der Maske aka Face of the Frog. Review out tomorrow. On this thread. :nod:

Greetings!

Prince_Vajda 4th April 2012 02:30 PM

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#1 Der Frosch mit der Maske aka Face of the Frog

Released in 1959
Directed by Harald Reinl
Starring Joachim Fuchsberger, Eva Anthes, Siegfried Lowitz, Eddi Arent, Eva Pflug, Carl Lange, Dieter Eppler, Ernst Fritz Fürbringer, and Fritz Rasp

When this film was released in 1959, it was a little sensation. Crime films were highly unsuccessful in post-war Germany, and nobody wanted to invest in any film of that genre. However, Waldfried M.Barthel, chief executive of German ‘Constantin Film’, decided to take a chance and started a series of movies based on Edgar Wallace’s novels (whose works were and still are very popular in Germany). Face of the Frog was the first, but it would not be the final one: 3,000,000 cinemagoers were a huge success at the time, and led to quite a few ‘sequels’ – i.e. more Edgar Wallace-based crime films, most (but not all) of them produced by ‘Constantin Film’.

The ‘face of the frog’ is terrorising London’s streets. That fact that he’s a mask-wearing killer who doesn’t leave many marks makes this case a hard one for Inspector William Elk of Scotland Yard (Siegfried Lowitz). Frog tattoos on his victims’ wrists are the only clue. This would be an almost unsolvable case, if it hadn’t been for Richard Gordon (Joachim Fuchsberger) – the nephew of Scotland Yard’s head, who helps Elk with his investigations.

This is a straight-forward crime movie. A typical “whodunnit”, with pretty inept policemen, a clever killer, and a civilian who helps unmasking the latter. Why is this a good movie and worth watching? Well, it stars Siegfried Lowitz. He plays the smart and dry-humoured police inspector with such ease that you can’t help loving the film. This is also due to the fact that he is supported by a bunch of very fine German actors, among them Joachim Fuchsberger (highly charismatic – that’s why they chose him as an inspector quite a few times in later Wallace films), Carl Lange, and Fritz Rasp (both can also be found in many other Wallace flicks – most of the time, they played crooks or obscure characters).
And don’t forget Eddi Arent, the funny chap. Mostly restricted to small roles, he’s an important actor of the series all the same. What some of the Wallace films lack in story, they compensate with humour. Another feat of this movie (and of the series in general) - a gentle pace (combined with pretty short running times between approx. 75 and 90 minutes), and especially moody cinematography. Foggy London never looked better - not even in British films. ;)

It’s the first ‘Constantin’ Wallace, and it’s a good one. A very nice start for a highly entertaining series of crime films.


*** out of ****

Der Frosch mit der Maske aka Face of the Frog. Universum Film Germany DVD. German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles.
Available as a single DVD or in the Edgar Wallace Edition 1 (1959-1961, four films).

More film stills here.

Demdike@Cult Labs 4th April 2012 02:40 PM

I'm going to enjoy this thread.

Prince_Vajda 5th April 2012 07:22 PM

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...snap-00002.jpg
Get on with it!

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...snap-00175.jpg
To be absolutely blunt, you're worried about your enormous hooter.

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...snap-00237.jpg
I'll cut your throat if you don't tell me where I can buy that shirt.

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More strange things in tomorrow's review!

Der rote Kreis aka The Crimson Circle. Review out tomorrow. On this thread. :nod:

Greetings!

Prince_Vajda 8th April 2012 06:28 PM

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It's a shame, but there's no second review today. I hope I'll be able to post two reviews tomorrow evening, though. :)

In the meantime, have a look at all eight German Edgar Wallace boxsets - with the faces of famous actors of the series on the spine.

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333909114
Edgar Wallace Edition 1; four films; 1959-1961; Eva Anthes
Edgar Wallace Edition 2; four films; 1961; Siegfried Lowitz

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333909129
Edgar Wallace Edition 3; four films; 1962-1963; Joachim Fuchsberger
Edgar Wallace Edition 4; four films; 1963-1964; Gert Fröbe

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333909129
Edgar Wallace Edition 5; four films; 1964-1965; Karin Dor
Edgar Wallace Edition 6; four films; 1965-1967; Klaus Kinski

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333909456
Edgar Wallace Edition 7; four films; 1967-1968; Heinz Drache
Edgar Wallace Edition 8; five films; 1968-1971; Eddi Arent

And here's how all eight boxes look next to each other:
http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/atta...1&d=1333909816

Greetings!

Prince_Vajda 10th April 2012 08:14 PM

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#2 Der rote Kreis aka The Crimson Circle

Released in 1959
Directed by Jürgen Roland
Starring Renate Ewert, Klausjürgen Wussow, Karl Saebisch, Eddi Arent, Ernst Fritz Fürbringer, and Fritz Rasp

From the very beginning, the producers from ‘Constantin Film’ planned to shoot at least two Wallace movies. So it was no surprise that, after the huge success of the series’ first flick (Der Frosch mit der Maske), a second movie would follow pretty quickly. Some actors from the first film also appear in the second: Fritz Rasp and Eddi Arent played other characters, whilst Ernst Fritz Fürbringer reprised his role as the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Archibald Morton. The main parts, however, were all played by new actors.

A strange series of murders keeps London in suspense. Rich citizens are the victims of a professional blackmailer. Everybody contacting the police or refusing payment gets killed; a red circle on parchment paper is found on every scene of crime. Are there any links between current events and an unsuccessful execution eleven years ago? Inspector Parr (Karl Saebisch) needs the help of a private investigator (Klausjürgen Wussow).

This is the second Wallace film, and the we already get a new inspector. This time it’s Karl Saebisch. His inspector is different from Lowitz’ inspector. Inspector Parr is the prototype of a classic investigator. He’s clever, but not cocky; he’s old, but not senile; his retirement is in sight, but his motivation’s still there. Totally unpretentious, but confident and credible. If your into classic detective characters, you’ll love him, and so do I. Unfortunately, this is the only time he appears as a detective – he has a small role in the next Wallace, though. :nod:
The rest of the cast is fine, too. Renate Ewert doesn’t look too bad, and she’s a pretty good actress. (Her private life’s a very sad story. She had an addiction to pills, and died of pills and alcohol in 1966. Her father and her mother could not overcome the loss and comitted suicide in 1967 and 1969 respectively. :sad:)
As for the story: one of the best of the whole series. That’s why I won’t go into any details. Just let me tell you this: it has quite a few twists, a great amount of suspense, and some spooky scenes as well. It’s also one of the best roles of Fritz Rasp. Don’t miss out on this one!

One of the finest films of the whole series. A must-see.


**** out of ****

Der rote Kreis aka The Crimson Circle. Universum Film Germany DVD. German and English soundtrack, German subtitles.
Available as a single DVD or in the Edgar Wallace Edition 1 (1959-1961, four films).

More film stills here.

bizarre_eye@Cult Labs 10th April 2012 08:18 PM

Great review Prince, plus those sets look fantastic - are they English language friendly?

Prince_Vajda 10th April 2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bizarre_eye@Cult Labs (Post 230551)
Great review Prince, plus those sets look fantastic - are they English language friendly?

Thanks! :)
Generally speaking - yes. Most of them have English language and English subs.

I'll post a list with all films and technical specs later tonight!

Greetings!

bizarre_eye@Cult Labs 10th April 2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince_Vajda (Post 230552)
Thanks! :)
Generally speaking - yes. Most of them have English language and English subs.

I'll post a list with all films and technical specs later tonight!

Greetings!

Much appreciated! :thumb:

Prince_Vajda 10th April 2012 09:19 PM

Edgar Wallace Edition 1 (1959-1961) contains:
- Der Frosch mit der Maske (Face of the Frog) – 1.33:1, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Der rote Kreis (The Crimson Circle) – 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Die Bande des Schreckens (Hand of the Gallows) – 1.33:1, black and white - German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles

- Der grüne Bogenschütze (The Green Archer) – 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German soundtrack, German subtitles

Edgar Wallace Edition 2 (1961) contains:
- Die toten Augen von London (Dead Eyes of London) – 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Das Geheimnis der gelben Narzissen (The Devil’s Daffodil) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Der Fälscher von London (The Forger of London) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Die seltsame Gräfin (The Strange Countess) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles

Edgar Wallace Edition 3 (1962-1963) contains:
- Das Rätsel der roten Orchidee (Secret of the Red Orchid) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Die Tür mit den 7 Schlössern (The Door With Seven Locks) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Das Gasthaus an der Themse (The Inn On The River) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Der Zinker (The Squeaker) – 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles


Edgar Wallace Edition 4 (1963-1964) contains:
- Der schwarze Abt (The Black Abbott) - 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Das indische Tuch (The Indian Scarf) - 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Zimmer 13 (Room 13) - 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Der Hexer (The Mysterious Magician) - 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles


Edgar Wallace Edition 5 (1964-1965) contains:
- Die Gruft mit dem Rätselschloss (Curse of the Hidden Vault) - 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Wartezimmer zum Jenseits (Mark of the Tortoise) * - 2.35:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles

- Das Verrätertor (Traitor’s Gate) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Neues vom Hexer (Again the Ringer) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German soundtrack, German subtitles
* not part of the official Constantin Edgar Wallace, but by the director of many Wallace films, Alfred Vohrer

Edgar Wallace Edition 6 (1965-1967) contains:
- Der unheimliche Mönch (The Sinister Monk) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, black and white – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Das Geheimnis der weißen Nonne (The Trygon Factor) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Der Bucklige von Soho (The Hunchback of Soho) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Die blaue Hand (Creature with the Blue Hand) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German soundtrack, German subtitles

Edgar Wallace Edition 7 (1967-1968) contains:
- Der Mönch mit der Peitsche (The College Girl Murders) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Der Hund von Blackwood Castle (The Monster of Blackwood Castle) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles

- Im Banne des Unheimlichen (The Hand of Power) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Der Gorilla von Soho (Gorilla Gang) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles

Edgar Wallace Edition 8 (1968-1971) contains:
- Der Mann mit dem Glasauge (Terror on Half Moon Street) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Das Gesicht im Dunkeln (Double Face) - 1.85:1 anamorphic, colour – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Die Tote aus der Themse (Angel of Terror) - 1.66:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles
- Das Geheimnis der grünen Stecknadel (What Have You Done To Solange?) – 2.35:1 anamorphic, colour – German soundtrack, German subtitles
- Das Rätsel des silbernen Halbmonds (Seven Blood-Stained Orchids) – 2.35:1 anamorphic, colour – German and English soundtrack, German and English subtitles

22 out of 33 have English soundtrack and English subtitles. :nod:

Greetings!

bizarre_eye@Cult Labs 10th April 2012 09:21 PM

Thanks Prince! :)

Prince_Vajda 15th May 2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince_Vajda (Post 242355)
As you all know, my last entry is from 14 February. A review thread's only interesting if it is kept alive by its founder. That's something I cannot guarantee at the moment.

For the next few months, I'm at university most of the time - whilst my movie collection is at home.

What's more, I'm also not very keen on watching movies at the moment - only god knows why. :confused: :coolblue:

I thought it would be fair to let you know that you shouldn't expect any news here in the near future. :(

However, I'd love Dem to post some lobby cards and stills from time to time. I like them very much, and they'll remind me that I should come back to this thread some time in the future again. :nod:

Greetings!

The same goes for this thread, unfortunately.

I'm terrible sorry, but I don't want to make promises that I cannot keep. :(

Greetings!

Prince_Vajda 4th January 2017 09:34 PM

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Here's your prescription - two of these suppositories a day!

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My brain hurts!

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Come on! Lick my scar!

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This is an emergency! We've run out of Whisky!

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Das Gasthaus an der Themse aka The Inn on the River. Review out this week. On this thread.

Demoncrat 16th September 2017 10:02 PM

Love Edgar Wallace and after getting the British versions, I really must pull the digit out with these!!
:nod:

Kudos Prince!!!

Prince_Vajda 1st June 2019 02:06 PM

Anyone still interested in this thread?

If so, I will post reviews / stills / lobby cards every once in a while, especially of Gialli.

Respond to the thread or like this post in order to tell me, "Yeah, I'll tune in from time to time...".

markchro 1st June 2019 04:37 PM

I'd love to see more Gialli and Krimi Prince! Thank you! :)

I've eventually collected the Universum EW boxsets on DVD (and the Bryan sets) only to see they are now releasing them on Blu-ray at quite a cost per set! Oh well! :(

Prince_Vajda 1st June 2019 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markchro (Post 604545)
I'd love to see more Gialli and Krimi Prince! Thank you! :)

I've eventually collected the Universum EAW boxsets on DVD (and the Bryan sets) only to see they are now releasing them on Blu-ray at quite a cost per set! Oh well! :(

The DVDs are quite alright and I doubt that the Blu-rays will be a significant improvement. Enjoy the films! :rockon:

Demdike@Cult Labs 1st June 2019 06:19 PM

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Prince_Vajda 2nd June 2019 11:59 AM

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My favourite poster for L'uccello dalle piume di cristallo, although it makes the film look bolder than it really is.

https://www.cult-labs.com/forums/att...1&d=1559476689

The film's excellent haunting main theme, composed by maestro Morricone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImwGri5S5w

Prince_Vajda 12th June 2019 12:05 PM

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A few nice German releases of good (or even excellent) Gialli.

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left: The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (1970) / Koch Media / German, English, Italian soundtrack / optional German subtitles / BD+DVD / released 2015
right: Four Flies on Grey Velvet (1971) / Koch Media / German, English, Italian soundtrack / optional German subtitles / BD+DVD / released 2016

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left: What Have You Done To Solange? (1972) / Koch Media / German, English, Italian soundtrack / optional German subtitles / BD+DVD / released 2017
right: Seven Blood-Stained Orchids (1972) / Koch Media / German, English, Italian soundtrack / optional German, English subtitles / BD+DVD / released 2019

Prince_Vajda 14th June 2019 10:29 PM

The beautiful Morricone theme for Argento's Il gatto a nove code (The Cat o' Nine Tails, 1971).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qovA_0Lnk

Prince_Vajda 15th June 2019 01:37 PM

My plans for this thread.

There'll be shorter reviews, but more - posted irregularly. I will jump from the 60s to the 00s and back again. I'll include classics as well as personal favourites. Krimis, Gialli, Slashers - it'll be a nice potpourri.

Enjoy or feel free to disagree.

Suggestions are always welcome.

Prince_Vajda 21st June 2019 11:46 PM

I don't know which Giallo I should review next. :hide:

Post your three favourite Gialli and I'll pick one of them.

Thanks.

Prince_Vajda 22nd June 2019 02:17 PM

Okay, here's some help...

Should I watch and review...

A) In the Folds of the Flesh
B) The Black Belly of the Tarantula
C) Death Laid an Egg
D) What Have They Done to Your Daughters?
E) Seven Blood-Stained Orchids
F) Forbidden Photos of a Lady Above Suspicion


?

PM or answer on this thread.
If you don't care which one I pick (but still like to read a review), simply like this post. Thanks.

nosferatu42 22nd June 2019 02:37 PM

I'd like to see what you make of "Death laid an egg".:pop2:

Demoncrat 22nd June 2019 02:53 PM

D ;)

bizarre_eye@Cult Labs 22nd June 2019 04:23 PM

A - one of my personal faves.

markchro 22nd June 2019 06:43 PM

A - And I hope the review will immediately set me off looking for a disc! :)

Prince_Vajda 22nd June 2019 07:08 PM

Thanks for your participation.


:first:
In the Folds of the Flesh
:second:
Death Laid an Egg
:third:
What Have They Done to Your Daughters?


So I will watch and review those three films. I'm going to start today. :nod:

Prince_Vajda 28th June 2019 08:42 PM

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Quick update: this is what I looked like after having watched In the Folds of the Flesh (for various reasons).

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I'll post a review some time later, but the next film will be a more traditional approach to the Giallo genre:

Il gatto dagli occhi di giada
(The Cat's Victims / Watch Me When I Kill)

Prince_Vajda 5th July 2019 03:07 PM

I'm going to post one or two short reviews this weekend.


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