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ecc 6th February 2012 12:49 AM

Blu caps added to Beaver review

damek 6th February 2012 08:06 AM

I finally watched it. The picture quality was pretty good, most of the added footage was unnecessary, so you can watch the movie without it. I thought the movie itself was pretty bad though. I think only The Phantom of the Opera is worse, from the movies he directed.

Black Gloves 6th February 2012 05:38 PM

Four Flies on Grey Velvet (1971) | Blu-ray Review | Horrorview.com

damek 6th February 2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Gloves (Post 214606)

I agree about the Italian trailer. I think I like it better than the movie.

bgart13 7th February 2012 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ecc (Post 214455)

I'm curious how the data size ended up being as low as it is on this. HORROR EXPRESS from Severin also had this issue and would've benefited from higher bitrates, etc. Now, I haven't watched more than about the first ten mins of it, so I can't comment too much on my own experiences -- I'm not damning it at all. I got either the flu, a stomach virus or food poisoning over the weekend and didn't get to watch it in entirety. But I am curious if it was kept low to fit onto a single layer disc to save money or if that's all the Italians provided to Shameless (not another case like THE BEYOND, is it ..?).

doolahrock 7th February 2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bgart13 (Post 214717)
I'm curious how the data size ended up being as low as it is on this. HORROR EXPRESS from Severin also had this issue and would've benefited from higher bitrates, etc. Now, I haven't watched more than about the first ten mins of it, so I can't comment too much on my own experiences -- I'm not damning it at all. I got either the flu, a stomach virus or food poisoning over the weekend and didn't get to watch it in entirety. But I am curious if it was kept low to fit onto a single layer disc to save money or if that's all the Italians provided to Shameless (not another case like THE BEYOND, is it ..?).

Bit of contradiction on that review. The text review states a single layer disc but the spec sheet says dual layered.

doolahrock 7th February 2012 07:03 AM

Just popped the disc in the computer. It is indeed a single layer disc, maxed out at 22.51gb

Steel76 8th February 2012 08:23 AM

So are there actually TWO complete diffrent versions on the single layer disc, or did they use branching for all the extra scenes?

Sure hope so or they really are pushing it way to far for a single layered disc ;)

PaulD 8th February 2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Steel76 (Post 214999)
So are there actually TWO complete diffrent versions on the single layer disc, or did they use branching for all the extra scenes?

Sure hope so or they really are pushing it way to far for a single layered disc ;)

Branching :)

When they first realised they had extra lesser-quality scenes that could be included Shamless asked via this forum if we would prefer them as deleted scenes or integrated into the actual film. The response was a largely the latter but only if they were included via seamless branching so the original film could also be watched in full HD and Shameless obliged.

I have only had a quick flick through the disc but the quality's pretty damn good, certainly the best this film will look I suspect

the blob 9th February 2012 03:56 AM

I've got to chime in here with my own thoughts. PQ generally very good. I know people are talking about low bitrates and single layered etc but to me that only really comes into play if it's a lousy encode, which this isn't.

Now... The audio....

For the most part great BUT those digital distortion glitches near the end are painful and I can't figure out why they happened as they're not on the Italian audio track. I often watch with headphones as I watch quite a lot in the early hours but I'm glad I didn't with this. Digital distortion is quite dangerous to hearing as it's all high frequency and having those turned up on headphones would have been quite nasty. I actually think it's an issue that is worth looking at.

doolahrock 9th February 2012 06:46 AM

[QUOTE=the blob;215274

Now... The audio....

For the most part great BUT those digital distortion glitches near the end are painful and I can't figure out why they happened as they're not on the Italian audio track. I often watch with headphones as I watch quite a lot in the early hours but I'm glad I didn't with this. Digital distortion is quite dangerous to hearing as it's all high frequency and having those turned up on headphones would have been quite nasty. I actually think it's an issue that is worth looking at.[/QUOTE]

I have to agree on the audio and can't help that think it must be some sort of a mistake. I generally hate it when audio switches to a different language but I think in this case if the English audio had such a defect I would have welcomed a quick switch to Italian with subs.

bgart13 9th February 2012 07:19 PM

Got around to watching the bd last night. In many areas, the image is really good, really well done and nearly amazing (mostly the outdoor daytime stuff). At other parts, nearly every dark scene in fact, there's some serious compression/encoding issues that I'm surprised are present. Strange looking stuff, but others have noted about already. Curious how that happened. The audio was very good too, though the end is rather intensely cranked up and distorted as others have also noted. The Cozzi interview is good, learned some good new info about the movie. The Italian trailer is so much fun too. The branching worked perfectly well on my player, so my hat's off to learning the technology needed for this and getting it done.

I'm not expecting a recall for this and don't know whether it really needs one (whereas THE BEYOND did), but it is a curious situation and disappointing in these aspects. I used to quite like FFoGV, but after watching it last night, my appreciation of it lessened. Still some very good moments in the movie however.

Breck 11th February 2012 12:13 PM

Hi folks.

I watched Four Flies last night and on the whole was very pleased with it. My system wasn't keen on some of the night scenes especially the early scene when Roberto's lying in bed. Definite digital black problems which I haven't suffered with any other bluray.

Also the Italian audio popping up in the final scenes was a surprise! Interesting to watch but the clicking started to annoy.

The biggest problem came when the final scream and screech of tyres is heard. I wasn't playing the film very loud at all (I watched it late at night when my wife was in bed and our new born was sleeping in the living room so needed to keep it fairly low key) but when the scream/screech occurred, my surround sound system freaked out, the display read "PROTECT! PROTECT!" and then it shut itself down to stop the speakers from bursting!! I don't know if anyone else has suffered this before but I've never had any problems with the system in the past (played my bluray of The Last Waltz LOUD a few days ago and had no trouble at all).

Still it's great to see the film finally in HD!

antmumford 11th February 2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Breck (Post 215888)
Hi folks.

I watched Four Flies last night and on the whole was very pleased with it. My system wasn't keen on some of the night scenes especially the early scene when Roberto's lying in bed. Definite digital black problems which I haven't suffered with any other bluray.

Also the Italian audio popping up in the final scenes was a surprise! Interesting to watch but the clicking started to annoy.

The biggest problem came when the final scream and screech of tyres is heard. I wasn't playing the film very loud at all (I watched it late at night when my wife was in bed and our new born was sleeping in the living room so needed to keep it fairly low key) but when the scream/screech occurred, my surround sound system freaked out, the display read "PROTECT! PROTECT!" and then it shut itself down to stop the speakers from bursting!! I don't know if anyone else has suffered this before but I've never had any problems with the system in the past (played my bluray of The Last Waltz LOUD a few days ago and had no trouble at all).

Still it's great to see the film finally in HD!

This is a problem on all copies and personally I think Shameless should do a recall or something and get corrected discs out on the market because it's not just a minor fault. It's a lot worse a problem than the mononchrome opening on The Beyond that Arrow issued replacements for.
Just my two cents anyway

Stephen@Cult Labs 11th February 2012 02:18 PM

Just had a look at the final scenes of the film, and I have to agree about the sound. I can't believe this was released with those distortions during the Italian parts. It's not often I complain about a Shameless (or Arrow release for that matter), but this is a fail.


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