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Susan Foreman 16th March 2021 11:14 AM

Award season 2021: Best And Worst - The Oscars and The Razzies
 
The nominations for the 2021 Oscars and the 2021 Razzies have been announced

THE OSCARS:

BEST PICTURE
  • "The Father"
  • "Judas and the Black Messiah"
  • "Mank"
  • "Minari"
  • "Nomadland"
  • "Promising Young Woman"
  • "Sound of Metal"
  • "The Trial of the Chicago 7″

DIRECTOR
  • Thomas Vinterberg, "Another Round"
  • David Fincher, "Mank"
  • Lee Isaac Chung, "Minari"
  • Chloe Zhao, "Nomadland"
  • Emerald Fennell, "Promising Young Woman"

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
  • Riz Ahmed, "Sound of Metal"
  • Chadwick Boseman, "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom"
  • Anthony Hopkins, "The Father"
  • Gary Oldman, "Mank"
  • Steven Yeun, "Minari"

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
  • Viola Davis, "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom"
  • Andra Day, "The United States vs. Billie Holiday"
  • Vanessa Kirby, "Pieces of a Woman"
  • Frances McDormand, "Nomadland"
  • Carey Mulligan, "Promising Young Woman"

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
  • Sacha Baron Cohen, "The Trial of the Chicago 7"
  • Daniel Kaluuya, "Judas and the Black Messiah"
  • Leslie Odom Jr., "One Night in Miami"
  • Paul Raci, "Sound of Metal"
  • Lakeith Stanfield, "Judas and the Black Messiah"

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
  • Maria Bakalova, "Borat Subsequent Moviefilm"
  • Glenn Close, "Hillbilly Elegy"
  • Olivia Colman, "The Father"
  • Amanda Seyfried, "Mank"
  • Youn Yuh-jung, "Minari"

THE RAZZIES meanwhile have:

Worst picture
  • "365 Days"
  • "Absolute Proof"
  • "Dolittle"
  • "Fantasy Island"
  • "Music"

Worst actor
  • Robert Downey, Jr., "Dolittle"
  • Mike Lindell (The “My Pillow” Guy), "Absolute Proof"
  • Michele Morrone, "365 Days"
  • Adam Sandler, "Hubie Halloween"
  • David Spade, "The Wrong Missy"

Worst actress
  • Anne Hathaway, "The Last Thing He Wanted" and "Roald Dahl's The Witches"
  • Katie Holmes, "Brahms: The Boy II" and "The Secret: Dare to Dream"
  • Kate Hudson, "Music"
  • Lauren Lapkus, "The Wrong Missy"
  • Anna-Maria Sieklucka, "365 Days"

Worst supporting actress
  • Glenn Close, "Hillbilly Elegy"
  • Lucy Hale, "Fantasy Island"
  • Maggie Q, "Fantasy Island"
  • Kristen Wiig, "Wonder Woman 1984"
  • Maddie Ziegler, "Music"

Worst supporting actor
  • Chevy Chase, "The Very Excellent Mr. Dundee"
  • Rudy Giuliani (as himself), "Borat, Subsequent Moviefilm"
  • Shia LeBeouf, "The Tax Collector"
  • Arnold Schwarzeneggar, "Iron Mask"
  • Bruce Willis, "Breach," "Hard Kill" and "Survive the Night"

Worst screen combo
  • Maria Bakalova and Rudy Giuliani, "Borat Subsequent Movie-Film"
  • Robert Downey Jr. and His Utterly Unconvincing "Welsh" Accent, "Dolittle"
  • Harrison Ford and That Totally Fake-Looking CGI "Dog," "Call of the Wild"
  • Lauren Lapkus and David Spade, "The Wrong Missy"
  • Adam Sandler and His Grating Simpleton Voice, "Hubie Halloween"

Worst director
  • Charles Band, All 3 "Barbie & Kendra" movies
  • Barbara Bialowas and Tomasz Mandes, "365 Days"
  • Stephen Gaghan, "Dolittle"
  • Ron Howard, "Hillbilly Elegy"
  • Sia, "Music"

Worst screenplay
  • "365 Days"
  • All 3 "Barbie & Kendra" movies
  • "Dolittle"
  • "Fantasy Island"
  • "Hillbilly Elegy"

Worst Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
  • "365 Days" (Polish remake/rip-off of "Fifty Shades of Grey")
  • "Dolittle" (remake)
  • "Fantasy Island" (remake/"reimagining")
  • "Hubie Halloween" (remake/rip-off of "Ernest Scared Stupid")
  • "Wonder Woman 1984" (sequel)

Demoncrat 16th March 2021 12:58 PM

Mank for best picture methinks ....

Inspector Abberline 16th March 2021 04:13 PM

?
 
Can I get an award for not seeing any of those films nominated,or know who any of those people are...?

Demdike@Cult Labs 16th March 2021 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Abberline (Post 647898)
Can I get an award for not seeing any of those films nominated,or know who any of those people are...?

Yes you can but you'll be up against competition, namely me.

I think i'm front runner because i also don't give shit about seeing any of the films nominated.

gag 16th March 2021 04:45 PM

I’m must be out of touch with what’s about then, because I have only heard about 3 films at the most in all the nominations, and that’s only by name couldn’t tell you anything about them

trebor8273 16th March 2021 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gag (Post 647905)
I’m must be out of touch with what’s about then, because I have only heard about 3 films at the most in all the nominations, and that’s only by name couldn’t tell you anything about them

Must be me as well, as the only one I've heard of is mank and have no intention of seeing it. Is the virus to blame or Hollywood ?

gag 16th March 2021 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebor8273 (Post 647909)
Must be me as well, as the only one I've heard of is mank and have no intention of seeing it. Is the virus to blame or Hollywood ?

I’ve seen just one and that’s trial of Chicago 7, Netflix true story of the trial where they’re accused of starting and enticing riots but more of a courtroom drama where they make a mockery of the law and government.

iank 16th March 2021 07:54 PM

Never heard of any of them. Is it wrong that I'm actually quite happy to be out of touch? :lol:

nicholasrope 16th March 2021 08:51 PM

Must admit, I'm kind of glad at some of these comments, as someone who doesn't have these subscription websites therefore not seen any of them. But have read about them, I catch them on DVD if released.

I was hoping that Invisible Man might have snuck a couple of nominations as it was one of the bigger movies before Cinemas shut down.

It would not surprise me if this was the lowest viewed Oscars of all time, it's just a question of how much well known this nominations are. I watch because there is something, I'm rooting for.

It'll be Borat and Sasha Baron Cohen this year then

Susan Foreman 24th April 2021 10:15 AM

...And the Razzie goes to...

Worst picture
  • "365 Days"
  • "Absolute Proof"
  • "Dolittle"
  • "Fantasy Island"
  • "Music"

Worst actor
  • Robert Downey, Jr., "Dolittle"
  • Mike Lindell (The “My Pillow” Guy), "Absolute Proof"
  • Michele Morrone, "365 Days"
  • Adam Sandler, "Hubie Halloween"
  • David Spade, "The Wrong Missy"

Worst actress
  • Anne Hathaway, "The Last Thing He Wanted" and "Roald Dahl's The Witches"
  • Katie Holmes, "Brahms: The Boy II" and "The Secret: Dare to Dream"
  • Kate Hudson, "Music"
  • Lauren Lapkus, "The Wrong Missy"
  • Anna-Maria Sieklucka, "365 Days"

Worst supporting actress
  • Glenn Close, "Hillbilly Elegy"
  • Lucy Hale, "Fantasy Island"
  • Maggie Q, "Fantasy Island"
  • Kristen Wiig, "Wonder Woman 1984"
  • Maddie Ziegler, "Music"

Worst supporting actor
  • Chevy Chase, "The Very Excellent Mr. Dundee"
  • Rudy Giuliani (as himself), "Borat, Subsequent Moviefilm"
  • Shia LeBeouf, "The Tax Collector"
  • Arnold Schwarzeneggar, "Iron Mask"
  • Bruce Willis, "Breach," "Hard Kill" and "Survive the Night"

Worst screen combo
  • Rudy Giuliani & His Pants Zipper, "Borat Subsequent Movie-Film"
  • Robert Downey Jr. and His Utterly Unconvincing "Welsh" Accent, "Dolittle"
  • Harrison Ford and That Totally Fake-Looking CGI "Dog," "Call of the Wild"
  • Lauren Lapkus and David Spade, "The Wrong Missy"
  • Adam Sandler and His Grating Simpleton Voice, "Hubie Halloween"

Worst director
  • Charles Band, All 3 "Barbie & Kendra" movies
  • Barbara Bialowas and Tomasz Mandes, "365 Days"
  • Stephen Gaghan, "Dolittle"
  • Ron Howard, "Hillbilly Elegy"
  • Sia, "Music"

Worst screenplay
  • "365 Days"
  • All 3 "Barbie & Kendra" movies
  • "Dolittle"
  • "Fantasy Island"
  • "Hillbilly Elegy"

Worst Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
  • "365 Days" (Polish remake/rip-off of "Fifty Shades of Grey")
  • "Dolittle" (remake)
  • "Fantasy Island" (remake/"reimagining")
  • "Hubie Halloween" (remake/rip-off of "Ernest Scared Stupid")
  • "Wonder Woman 1984" (sequel)

Special 'Governor's Award' to 2020 as 'Worst Calendar Year Ever'!

Susan Foreman 26th April 2021 06:20 AM

...And the Oscar goes to...

BEST PICTURE
  • "The Father"
  • "Judas and the Black Messiah"
  • "Mank"
  • "Minari"
  • "Nomadland"
  • "Promising Young Woman"
  • "Sound of Metal"
  • "The Trial of the Chicago 7″

DIRECTOR
  • Thomas Vinterberg, "Another Round"
  • David Fincher, "Mank"
  • Lee Isaac Chung, "Minari"
  • Chloe Zhao, "Nomadland"
  • Emerald Fennell, "Promising Young Woman"

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
  • Riz Ahmed, "Sound of Metal"
  • Chadwick Boseman, "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom"
  • Anthony Hopkins, "The Father"
  • Gary Oldman, "Mank"
  • Steven Yeun, "Minari"

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
  • Viola Davis, "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom"
  • Andra Day, "The United States vs. Billie Holiday"
  • Vanessa Kirby, "Pieces of a Woman"
  • Frances McDormand, "Nomadland"
  • Carey Mulligan, "Promising Young Woman"

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
  • Sacha Baron Cohen, "The Trial of the Chicago 7"
  • Daniel Kaluuya, "Judas and the Black Messiah"
  • Leslie Odom Jr., "One Night in Miami"
  • Paul Raci, "Sound of Metal"
  • Lakeith Stanfield, "Judas and the Black Messiah"

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
  • Maria Bakalova, "Borat Subsequent Moviefilm"
  • Glenn Close, "Hillbilly Elegy"
  • Olivia Colman, "The Father"
  • Amanda Seyfried, "Mank"
  • Youn Yuh-jung, "Minari"

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 26th April 2021 02:52 PM

Of all the films nominated for Oscars mentioned above, I've seen five: Mank, Sound of Metal, The Trial of the Chicago 7, One Night in Miami, and Borat Subsequent Moviefilm.

I understand why Mank won Best Cinematography because it looks great and has clearly been shot with great skill.

Sound of Metal fully deserved the editing and sound awards because it was extremely well crafted and the sound design was disorientating and compelling, putting you in the head of someone who is losing their hearing.

One Night in Miami is exceptionally well written and powerfully performed. It's a film which (perhaps unsurprisingly) feels like a filmed play, similar in some respects to August: Osage County, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? and Fences.

The Trial of the Chicago 7 is another film with a superb screenplay, excellent performances by a stellar ensemble cast, and with an important (real) story to tell.

Borat Subsequent Moviefilm may not have the shock value of the first film featuring Sasha Baron Cohen's fictional Kazak journalist, but it does have a clever script and set up, extremely brave and committed performances from Baron Cohen and Maria Bakalova, and shows a disturbing level of bigotry and prejudice in the United States.

I've also seen Soul (Best Animated Feature) Onward (nominated for Best Animated Feature) and My Octopus Teacher (Best Documentary). All are well worth watching.

nosferatu42 27th April 2021 02:23 AM

Thing is i'm obviously not right in the head because most Oscar films i tend to avoid because they are usually so worthy, they have the best cinematography, soundtrack, acting awards and shit because they are deemed to be "good" films so film companies get behind them because they make a point about life or something.
Or they are singled out because they are indie but they are worthy.

The only point they actually make is that the general Oscar goer just wants the same shit served up on a plate.

Normally the only thing i take from the oscars is a list of films i want to avoid because they are over long, too ****ing right on or just plain dull.

:behindsofa:

nosferatu42 27th April 2021 02:29 AM

These are generally films i won't rush out to watch, but will end up watching at some point in 5 years on TV and will get to the end and say to myself that was underwhelming. :pop2:

nosferatu42 27th April 2021 02:34 AM

But what i want to know is wether it is because i'm an uncivilised fiend or because i'm not conditioned to want an oscar worthy "version" of real events, or am so desperate for a feel good or noble film that i get moist in the gusset?

Me i'd rather have a bacon and egg sandwich. :loveeyes:
Ticks all my boxes.:pop2:

:behindsofa:

iank 27th April 2021 03:38 AM

I've never heard of any of them, and I doubt I'll ever watch them. I didn't even know it was the Oscars honestly.

Demoncrat 27th April 2021 08:44 AM

Pandering a go go.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosferatu42 (Post 650857)
Thing is i'm obviously not right in the head because most Oscar films i tend to avoid because they are usually so worthy, they have the best cinematography, soundtrack, acting awards and shit because they are deemed to be "good" films so film companies get behind them because they make a point about life or something.
Or they are singled out because they are indie but they are worthy.

The only point they actually make is that the general Oscar goer just wants the same shit served up on a plate.

Normally the only thing i take from the oscars is a list of films i want to avoid because they are over long, too ****ing right on or just plain dull.

:behindsofa:

What about recent (in the last 15 years) Best Picture Oscar winners No Country for Old Men, Birdman, The Departed, or The Shape of Water?

nosferatu42 27th April 2021 06:56 PM

I liked Shape of water, wasn't that impressed by Birdman and the other two don't interest me.

trebor8273 27th April 2021 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 650920)
What about recent (in the last 15 years) Best Picture Oscar winners No Country for Old Men, Birdman, The Departed, or The Shape of Water?

You do get the odd interesting ones but most are boring and pretentious shit that I have no interest in watching. As Oscars is a list of films to avoid for me.

MrBarlow 27th April 2021 07:08 PM

To be honest and I may get some stick for this Fantasy Island wasn't great nor bad either, Katie Holmes wasnt bad either in Brahms: The Boy 2. But would agree about Anne Hathaway in The Witches, that is a film that shouldn't have been made and how they made it im surprised it wasn't mentioned in the top worst films

:behindsofa:

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosferatu42 (Post 650922)
I liked Shape of water, wasn't that impressed by Birdman and the other two don't interest me.

You're missing out because both are superb films. The Coen brothers are brilliant filmmakers and No Country for Old Men is one of the Best Westerns made in the last 50 years. It's probably worth watching just for Javier Bardem's exceptional portrayal of Anton Chigurh. Cormac McCarthy's novel on which the film is based is well worth reading as well.

Although The Departed isn't Martin Scorsese's best film, and perhaps not as good as the great Infernal Affairs trilogy either, it's a superbly acted and masterfully created crime thriller.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:34 PM

I'm also of the opinion that the Oscars are now completely underwhelming.

Mainly because the films nominated are so worthy rather than genuinely great films.

Look at the 90's for example. The best picture winners were such a diverse bunch. Winners like The Silence of the Lambs, Unforgiven, Braveheart, American Beauty and Titanic.

However the ones that didn't win are just as good and in many cases better - LA Confidential, The Sixth Sense, Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, Fargo, Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, JFK, Goodfellas...

Basically i think Hollywood is in a terminal decline and films the quality of which i've listed simply aren't getting made anymore because of the need to make money meaning franchises just keep getting bigger and bigger at the expense of what i would call classier movies.

Basically there are too many superhero films cluttering up movie theatres.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 650974)
You're missing out because both are superb films. The Coen brothers are brilliant filmmakers and No Country for Old Men is one of the Best Westerns made in the last 50 years. It's probably worth watching just for Javier Bardem's exceptional portrayal of Anton Chigurh. Cormac McCarthy's novel on which the film is based is well worth reading as well.

Although The Departed isn't Martin Scorsese's best film, and perhaps not as good as the great Infernal Affairs trilogy either, it's a superbly acted and masterfully created crime thriller.

The Departed had zero competition when it won in 2006, same goes for No Country the year after.

2008 was a joke for nominated films but 2009 faired better with Hurt Locker, Avatar and District 9.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:53 PM

Just to finish off.

It's in later years that Oscar has felt the need to dish out the best picture award to 'worthy' films.

Take 2013 - Was 12 Years a Slave really better than Captain Phillips, Gravity or The Wolf of Wall Street?

I would say Wolf is by far the more popular and loved film.

2015 - Spotlight. Seriously? Better than The Revenant and Mad Max Fury Road. Definitely not but it's certainly more worthy.

Nos mentioned The Shape of Water. Certainly it's original so i'll give it that but Dunkirk was also nominated.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 28th April 2021 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 650978)
Just to finish off.

It's in later years that Oscar has felt the need to dish out the best picture award to 'worthy' films.

Take 2013 - Was 12 Years a Slave really better than Captain Phillips, Gravity or The Wolf of Wall Street?

I would say Wolf is by far the more popular and loved film.

2015 - Spotlight. Seriously? Better than The Revenant and Mad Max Fury Road. Definitely not but it's certainly more worthy.

Nos mentioned The Shape of Water. Certainly it's original so i'll give it that but Dunkirk was also nominated.

It's a good question on the 2013 Oscars.

Gravity was an exceptional piece of filmmaking and The Wolf of Wall Street was also incredibly good. I thought – and still think – [D]12 Years a Slave[/B] is an incredibly powerful and important film, a compelling story which was brilliantly realised by Steve McQueen.

I think it's a better film than Captain Phillips and The Wolf of Wall Street but very tough to compare with Gravity because they are so different.


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