What Films Have You Seen Recently?

[gag]

Originally Posted by MuckyFunster

The Wolf of Wall Street.

3 hours?!? Jeesh!

I thought the film started out good. Showing you the guy's quick ascent and all that. Plus It's pretty funny too.

But then when I remembered it's a true story I went off the whole thing. The way that it is narrated and acted out obviously wants you to cheer him on, to be glad for him and his "success". Glorifies the lifestyle...all the money, the women, the drugs, the mad parties...Slags off the cops throughout. The character buying his way out of any problems he encounters...writing it all off as him chasing and living the American Dream. It's what everyone wants, after all!

The scene on the train with the cop who lead the investigation seemed like a real-life personal dig. I took it to be affirming the film's message that crime does pay. Wether or not Jordan Belford had to do a couple of years in jail, he has come out the other side still rich. And regardless...he lived the dream while the cop scraped at the dirt. Turned me off against the whole film.

And then the plug that the guy is now a real life motivational speaker!!?? With the real life Jordan Belford playing a wee cameo??!! He's loving every moment of his notoriety. Did I just sit through a three hour self gratifying advert for an obviously un-reformed criminal's new career??

The fact I watched it all the way to the end makes me feel conned, like one of his many victims.


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Some films are long and you get that engrossed into it before you know it its finished and didn't feel like 3hrs ,where other films feel like oh there can't be long left wtf I'm only reaching half way point , and that was one of them .. I just couldn't take to the film and gave up at around 2hr mark and already felt like the film was a hr to long, it dragged and some scenes went on to long and could have been trimmed down,and other scenes felt like they was repeating themselves but in a different room with a different crowd , and I agree it felt like you wanted to be on his side instead of making you feel he a **** for what he did . and sometimes it makes you feel like crime does pay, rip people of get few yr in jail come out rich and live a luxury lifestyle while the people you rip of are pissed of. And odd occasionally time feel like governments don't care if you been ripped of , you can do fraud of few hundred thousand or few million and probably still get same sentence ,but if was the government money guaranteed you spend twice as long in jail and they want it paying back.

[bleakshaun]

watched hero last night
terribly dubbed, over the top action (flying), couldn't take it seriously. jet li was great, ending was great. have to say it was enjoyable though. and what was better was it was short

[keirarts]

Originally Posted by bleakshaun

watched hero last night
terribly dubbed, over the top action (flying), couldn't take it seriously. jet li was great, ending was great. have to say it was enjoyable though. and what was better was it was short

You should always watch kung fu flicks in the original language! A lot of wuxia films have characters with superhuman martial arts abilities. I recommend storm riders as a fun example.

[bleakshaun]

the truth is the only reason me and my mates watched it was because we watched a bit of crouching tiger hidden dragon on tv and we just wanted a laugh

[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by Cinematic Shocks

I've never understood why Gore Verbinski's Ring remake is rated so highly. 'Ringu' is far superior.

There are still a lot of people out there who refuse to 'read a film', so presumably they have never seen the original

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by MuckyFunster

The Wolf of Wall Street.

The fact I watched it all the way to the end makes me feel conned, like one of his many victims.

Isn't that a success for the screenplay and direction? The ability of the film to completely manipulate your moral compass shows its power. There is the famous sequence in Psycho where Norman Bates has pushed the car into the swamp and it momentarily stops sinking. At that moment, many audience members began empathising with Norman and wishing the car would vanish without a trace, feeling angry at themselves afterwards.

Having 'sympathy for the Devil' is something Scorsese has done many times throughout his career, whether it's Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull, Henry Hill in Goodfellas or Ace, Nicky, or Ginger in Casino.

[J Harker]

Originally Posted by Susan Foreman

There are still a lot of people out there who refuse to 'read a film', so presumably they have never seen the original

I stood next to a guy looking at dvd's in Asbosda once. Bloke was picking clearly foreign titles up looking at the backs then throwing them back on the shelf in disgust. He said to me "look at this! Subtitles subtitles ****ing subtitles! if I wanted to read a ****ing book I'd go and buy a ****ing book wouldn't I! Stupid bastards!!". Then he just stormed off.
I ask you...

[Justin101]

Originally Posted by Cinematic Shocks

I've never understood why Gore Verbinski's Ring remake is rated so highly. 'Ringu' is far superior.

I just like the bit where the horses go crazy and jump off the ferry

[J Harker]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs

Isn't that a success for the screenplay and direction? The ability of the film to completely manipulate your moral compass shows its power. There is the famous sequence in Psycho where Norman Bates has pushed the car into the swamp and it momentarily stops sinking. At that moment, many audience members began empathising with Norman and wishing the car would vanish without a trace, feeling angry at themselves afterwards.

Having 'sympathy for the Devil' is something Scorsese has done many times throughout his career, whether it's Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull, Henry Hill in Goodfellas or Ace, Nicky, or Ginger in Casino.

Well put Nos, i couldn't find the words. Gordon Gecko became an anti hero but he was fictional. What Scorcese and DeCaprio do with Wolf is similar, only the fact that Jordan Belfour is real says a lot about the system that allowed him to get so far and still be a success and filthy rich today. Add to that your point about Scorcese's sympathy for the devil approach let's not forget LaMotta and Henry Hill are both real characters too.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by J Harker

Well put Nos, i couldn't find the words. Gordon Gecko became an anti hero but he was fictional. What Scorcese and DeCaprio do with Wolf is similar, only the fact that Jordan Belfour is real says a lot about the system that allowed him to get so far and still be a success and filthy rich today. Add to that your point about Scorcese's sympathy for the devil approach let's not forget LaMotta and Henry Hill are both real characters too.

The characters in Casino are also based on real people, with the film adapted from Nicolas Pileggi's non-fiction book Casino: Love and Honor in Las Vegas, with De Niro's character a renamed version of Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal, Ginger being a fictionalised vision of his wife Geri McGee, and Joe Pesci's psychopathic Nicky heavily inspired by Lefty's mafioso friend Anthony Spilotro.