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Old 12th April 2014, 11:03 PM
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Ringu probably oozes the most evil for me.
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I was going to try and be funny and say Justin Bieber's movie, but One Direction went and released one..
Spice girls did it first!! lol
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Old 14th April 2014, 12:19 AM
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True, but Spice World had Meat Loaf as a bus driver, as well as cameos from Jonathan Ross, Elvis Costello, Bob Hoskins, Jennifer Saunders, Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry.
Plus it was hilariously bad (albeit on purpose).

On a more serious note, though. The creepy goings on during the making of The Exorcist are a point of interest for me. Plus my very Christian aunt even protested outside the cinema when it was released
Other than that, any film with legitimate animal cruelty, so as others have rightly said, Cannibal Holocaust. I don't quite know how cut my copy is (it's the Thai Vipco release) but as far as I can remember, it showed a lot (if not all) of the stuff I'd read about. Not a comfortable watch.
Also am I the only one who felt almost zero remorse for the characters in the film? That actually kind of spoiled the movie for me..

Actually, just thought of something. With the tragic accident that happened on the set of The Twilight Zone: The Movie - should that movie have still been released with John Landis' segment in it?
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Clownhouse is a good one, knowing what went on during the making of the film. It's one movie I would not watch again.
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Old 14th April 2014, 03:40 AM
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There are quite a few examples of films which could be seen as morally culpable from various angles - CH and the rest of that cycle, some Mondo flicks etc etc. I guess it boils down to what 'exploitation' means and which (or whose) boundaries have been violated, in reality.

It's more difficult to think of films which, in a more abstract or atmospheric way, radiate malevolence. Despite years of watching this kind of stuff, I can only bring a couple to mind. 'Last House on Dead End Street' always seethes with a really black vibe. 'The Exorcist', mentioned earlier, still has a really heavy atmosphere of pre-psychosis about it. Some roughies from the seventies have a really sick, bleak vibe - 'Forced Entry' etc. Some extreme Japanese stuff... not really 'evil', maybe, but harrowing. Underground US horror over the last decade has dallied with the depths, I suppose - Vogel, Valentine etc. Again, it's more severe than 'evil'. It's interesting, really, the whole thing about evil, beholding evil, where the feeling shifts from entertaining to challenging to intolerable, what it all means...
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Old 14th April 2014, 05:27 AM
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Everyones opinion is different, ive got last house on dead end street and found the film shite dull and boring.. A U trilogy arent my cup of tea a bit hard and a strong watch. some films havent seen but Slaughter vomit dolls doesnt apeal to me either .. 100 tears is a shit film that offers nothing but gore .. I myself find films like Grotesque and Guinea pig films wrong and uneccesary. same goes for certain scenes in some films even tho rest of the film could be no problem eg baby rape scene in Serbian film i think is a step to far to been shown on film even if its only act:ng fake etc. and makes you wonder what next controversail film maker going to do to top that. also the barb wire rape scene in Human centipede 2 isnt exactly a enjoyable idea to watch..even tho the Intruder is a fantastic film and in no way shape of form is nasty and doesnt fit in this category the head through the bandsaw is quite strong and a hard scene to watch imo.. at end of day each to their own what might be laughable to me could be wrong for soneone else and vice versa.. only major problem ive got tbh is mo matter how nasty a film / scene is because so many people are against cencorship insread of complaining the scene or film gone to far they will moan about the rights for people to watch it and to me that alone is scarier and sicker than sone films alone because then the Q? becones how far is to far when there will always be someone some where defending it and that alone is a scary thought.
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Everyones opinion is different, ive got last house on dead end street and found the film shite dull and boring.. A U trilogy arent my cup of tea a bit hard and a strong watch. some films havent seen but Slaughter vomit dolls doesnt apeal to me either .. 100 tears is a shit film that offers nothing but gore .. I myself find films like Grotesque and Guinea pig films wrong and uneccesary. same goes for certain scenes in some films even tho rest of the film could be no problem eg baby rape scene in Serbian film i think is a step to far to been shown on film even if its only act:ng fake etc. and makes you wonder what next controversail film maker going to do to top that. also the barb wire rape scene in Human centipede 2 isnt exactly a enjoyable idea to watch..even tho the Intruder is a fantastic film and in no way shape of form is nasty and doesnt fit in this category the head through the bandsaw is quite strong and a hard scene to watch imo.. at end of day each to their own what might be laughable to me could be wrong for soneone else and vice versa.. only major problem ive got tbh is mo matter how nasty a film / scene is because so many people are against cencorship insread of complaining the scene or film gone to far they will moan about the rights for people to watch it and to me that alone is scarier and sicker than sone films alone because then the Q? becones how far is to far when there will always be someone some where defending it and that alone is a scary thought.
I take your first point, about the subjective nature of it all - I can imagine some viewers finding something like LHODES tedious, even though for me it drips with a really foetid, squalid atmosphere and therefore becomes attractive... 'The Exorcist', too, for some has lost its original power and appears now as simply a good or 'great' film, but it still leaves me with a feeling of dread after all these years. Two cases of cinema generating a sense of 'evil', which again is all very much down to viewer interpretation. As for the other stuff, it all just becomes an exercise in tolerance for extreme cinema, also a very individual thing.
On your second point, well personally I'd defend the right of anyone to make or view anything at all, no matter how many boundaries are trashed - as long as it's the product of consenting, rational beings and no harm is done. I suppose then those definitions themselves can get fuzzy, but for me that's the litmus test as to whether something's watchable or not. Incidentally, maybe 'evil' resides outside of those broad constraints, but that kind of material would be thought about less in cinematic terms and more in terms of just evidence or documentation in a legal process. DPA / 'extreme porn' nonsense laws notwithstanding, this is probably a fairly conventional view and tallies with the outlook of even our morally uptight society. So I really don't have a problem with the HC2s, Serbian Films, Sadomasters and Slaughter Vomit Dolls of this world, they're all clearly fantasies in which no-one was exploited or harmed or injured. Certainly, 'each to their own' in respect of whether someone wants to view that kind of stuff or not, but I can't say I'm perturbed by the prospect of others defending the rights of even more out there stuff because ultimately underground horror filmmakers and audience members know that the most basic boundaries are only violated in a very different kind of scenario.
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Opinions and taste are so subjective i find it nearly impossible to conclude a debate for what should or should not be put in films for decency reasons.

Gag and Frankie have a good debate started, well worth a read.
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Evil Dead
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Twins Of Evil


Did I miss any??
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Yeah Tower of Evil. A movie so evil even Robin Askwith dies.
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