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Old 15th June 2009, 11:01 PM
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It was a studio bandwagon mate.It kinda rolled on from the success of SILENCE OF THE LAMBS...Remember films like FALLEN,THE BONE COLLECTOR and COPYCAT?
Now,these are no classics,but I was chuffed when studio produced films like URBAN LEGENDS,BRIDE OF CHUCKY,I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER and VALENTINE began spouting their heads.As I say,they may not have been classics,but they began to steer horror films back to their origins and away from the 'glitz' of big star casts and mediocre serial thrillers.......
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Old 15th June 2009, 11:19 PM
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Yeah, there was a lot of jumping on the band wagon at that time.I'm just interested in why these films where made at that time as cinema screens seemed full with serial killers and destruction of the family/individual type films.I'm trying to think of the socio-economic climate of the time and did this effect the content of these films.
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Maybe America saw Saddam Hussein as the monster serial killer and had to put it/him to rights?
Remember you had the James Bulger case as well.Perhaps studios felt it was safer to put Chucky,et al to rest for a while? Maybe put a more 'human face' on the monster?What do you all reckon?
Why did the horror flick go towards the thriller chiller in the nineties?
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Investors are starting to look at Horror Game franchise's for big screen adaptations , ie Resi Evil, Silent Hill and are eagerly eyeing the new wave of horror games that are heading to our consoles and maybe a cinema then BluRay retailer near you very soon. Horror and Games seems to be very much in vogue at the moment .

Film and Game colaborations in both directions makes perfect sense as both are the 2 top selling forms of Home Enterainment,

I know Dead Space is to get the film treatment and SAW is getting a game release, so with an unexpected allie with Game's , then maybe more joint colaborations between Film makers and Game dev's may not just be enough to see horror survive in the world of Hi Def, but could supply film makers with enough fresh ideas that could , quite possibly, be the start of a 'NEW' Golden Age for Horror Film.

My only worry is that as film playback for us fans gets more , clearer and detailed in this booming HD Era, that older films from the likes of Fulci, Franco, D' Amato etc, wont surive in the HD World and will disappear forever, with only their remakes left for future generations.
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My only worry is that as film playback for us fans gets more , clearer and detailed in this booming HD Era, that older films from the likes of Fulci, Franco, D' Amato etc, wont surive in the HD World and will disappear forever, with only their remakes left for future generations.
I wouldn't worry too much, seeing as those directors shot in 35mm.

Mostpeople wont notice or care if the film sourced from a good master, only truly neck-bearded cinemaphiles will notice the difference and then they'd be too busy fretting about bitrates to notice what is actually going on with the visual quality.
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Maybe America saw Saddam Hussein as the monster serial killer and had to put it/him to rights?
Remember you had the James Bulger case as well.Perhaps studios felt it was safer to put Chucky,et al to rest for a while? Maybe put a more 'human face' on the monster?What do you all reckon?
Why did the horror flick go towards the thriller chiller in the nineties?
To come back to this point I think you have a valid point about the more 'human' face of horror. It's well documented that public opinion is strongly governed by what is written or broadcasted in the media, therefore studios were able to play on these new fears. This coupled with the rising availability of the internet in people's homes opened new doors, and with it new monsters. These new possibilities meant that Freddy, Jason, Chucky et al were seen more as cartoon efigy's than monsters, their image had become stale as terror bore the fact into our brains that the ordinary looking guy or girl next door could be capable of disembowling you. This 'fear of the ordinary individual' has gradually taken us into the stage we are in now with the torture porn film industry; look at our monsters: Jigsaw (an ill man), The 'hunters' in Hostel... alarmingly normal people who we can almost relate to and identify with. With the new output from the genre like Eden Lake and The Children we are looking at a very disturbing portrayl of our horror monster template, where we fear our everyday lives and society itself. It's as if the horror genre is an allegory for the downfall of mankind. We start with the fantastical 2D template of a killer (Jason the unkillable) and we progress through to a kid like any you could walk by in the street any day of the week... what's next?! Killer embryos and DNA?! When everyday life starts to become what nightmares are made of, we need to look at why and where this fear stems from, and whether it is justified...
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I had "Hostel" and "Saw" pegged as responses to America's treatment of prisoners in the "war on terror".It's interesting to note that the present state of the world reflects that of the early 80s:war in Afghanistan,terrorist attacks on main land Britain and economic chaos.And the films we are getting at the moment:"Friday the 13th","My Bloody Valentine" etc...
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I had "Hostel" and "Saw" pegged as responses to America's treatment of prisoners in the "war on terror".It's interesting to note that the present state of the world reflects that of the early 80s:war in Afghanistan,terrorist attacks on main land Britain and economic chaos.And the films we are getting at the moment:"Friday the 13th","My Bloody Valentine" etc...

Yes, with all the remakes at the moment of genre classics, it's as though we have almost come full circle...

Interesting points about Hostel and Saw MTDS, I'm just not convinced... What I see is man-made monsters torturing normal, relatable people (in the case of Hostel 'innocent' civilians - introducing a fear of unknown foreign locations, and the 'unusual' to the gore hungry masses, just as Texas Chain Saw Massacre introduced the fear of remote American towns; and in the case of Saw seemingly innocent people who had inner guilt or 'flaws', as seen by Jigsaw who were then exploited so they could be 'better people'- and again who are very relatable characters). In some ways I can see where you are coming from in some fashion where Hostel is concerned: The greedy rich paying huge amounts of money to satisfy their deep, dark desires to torture innocents, but to me there seems a bigger picture to the direction the genre is sliding toward. Great points though mate.
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Old 26th June 2009, 09:54 PM
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The way the world is at present with Korea keen to arm, we could be looking at a new phase in the post apocalypse genre!!
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You may be right there - Shameless are looking at releasing a line of Post-Apocalypse films too... How uncanny!
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