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Old 31st July 2010, 05:28 PM
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hi all,would have to say cannibal ferox,for the obvious reasons.
have not seen some films mentiond like serbian film,mordum or snuff 102,although have got a/underground.this was brutal in my eyes BUT it is only special effects.certain scenes in ferox wernt.
Snuff 102's clever use of real images of the web, photo's, animal slaughter/torture , (whats being done to the monkey.?) a real intense use of sound and interesting storylines involving glimpes of the victims life, imho lift it above the usual fake snuff films , and when the snuff murders and sexual violence occur they really are unsettling and very real looking even though you know they're fake .

" The Animal Film " really disturbed me , as seeing what man does to animals really disgusted me. I know this is a pro animal film but it holds no punches and goes straight for the jugular. I still have certain scenes etched in my mind after watching this (monkey getting electronic shocks each time it stops running in a hamster style wheel, vomiting profusely to name but 1) and I only saw it once , and that was many years ago.

Man Bites Dog . The b/w documentary style home invasion and resulting adult's and child murder were not nice at all , and made me question what I was watching , especially as they tried to add a bit of humour to the procedings......A good film though.

You mention Ferox dis. Im a big cannibal film fan / collector , and I find Ferox to be quite a good film and imho it plays more on human on human violence but I know what you mean. I dont in any way support the shooting of animal cruelty scenes for any film , nor do I condone animal cruelty in any form , but I thought Ferox's scenes of that nature to be less disturbing , (though unnecessary) than some of the other lesser films in the cannibal sub genre such as Mountain of the Cannibal god.
I for one think Ferox would be just as shocking without them scenes as the human violence is quite savage enough . Pity Lenzi thought otherwise as it is quite a good film imho.

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Old 31st July 2010, 05:35 PM
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"Amateur Porn Star Killer" in which the killer/rapist spends the whole film slowly seducing the victim before killing her, off screen. I found the whole film very believable and realistic compared to other recent examples extreme cinema.
If its the same film im thinking off I totally agree. It made me think that this could be going on somewhere for real . Very believable .
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Old 31st July 2010, 06:27 PM
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Death File- Yellow, Red, Black, Grey
Death- press Vol 2, VOL 4
Death Woman.

far stronger than any of the Faces/z, Traces, or death scenes the Japanese really are a very strange lot in what they call entertainment.

then there is the Italian entries into the Mondo genre

This Violent World
Savage Man Savage Beast
Africa Ama
Addio ultimo uomo

to name a few.


these are far more shocking/Disturbing than Serbian Movie, August underground, snuff 102 etc could ever hope to be
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Old 31st July 2010, 07:51 PM
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Death File- Yellow, Red, Black, Grey
Death- press Vol 2, VOL 4
Death Woman.

far stronger than any of the Faces/z, Traces, or death scenes the Japanese really are a very strange lot in what they call entertainment.

then there is the Italian entries into the Mondo genre

This Violent World
Savage Man Savage Beast
Africa Ama
Addio ultimo uomo

to name a few.


these are far more shocking/Disturbing than Serbian Movie, August underground, snuff 102 etc could ever hope to be
I haven't seen the Death File / Presss films but I have seen all the Mondo films you listed Alex , plus a few more like Africa Blood and Guts (US cut) as well as the longer Italian version etc and I do agree they are quite nasty , but they never really offended or disturbed me to much . The native attack and castration and croc attack in one were quite fake looking imo. (cant rem which)

I find the idea of snuff very disturbing as theres a possible chance that it does exist in the form of the FBI's definition of what makes a snuff film , so thats why I tend to find snuff themed films , not fake snuff, quite disturbing .

Your righ, the Japanese have some mad taste in films. Was'nt Faces of Death more popular than Star Wars there.?

Some of the cinema of transgression stuff from Kearns etc are pretty disturbing to me.
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Old 1st August 2010, 09:33 AM
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I haven't seen the Death File / Presss films but I have seen all the Mondo films you listed Alex , plus a few more like Africa Blood and Guts (US cut) as well as the longer Italian version etc and I do agree they are quite nasty , but they never really offended or disturbed me to much . The native attack and castration and croc attack in one were quite fake looking imo. (cant rem which)

I find the idea of snuff very disturbing as theres a possible chance that it does exist in the form of the FBI's definition of what makes a snuff film , so thats why I tend to find snuff themed films , not fake snuff, quite disturbing .

Your righ, the Japanese have some mad taste in films. Was'nt Faces of Death more popular than Star Wars there.?

Some of the cinema of transgression stuff from Kearns etc are pretty disturbing to me.
Totally correct Vips Faces of Death (original) did out gross Star Wars at the box office in Japan.

While quite a lot of the scenes in some of the Mondo films are obviously fake some are quite real like male/female circumcisions.

The Death films are basically cameras following the emergency services but they are extremely strong, far stornger than Faces(z)/traces ETC. AND ALL REAL.


I have no idea what the FBI definition of Snuff is but my understanding is that they have to be made for profit, and with that understanding I find it hard to believe that they exist under that criteria.

While I fully accept that Serial Killers may film their crimes for kicks ( the Ng & Lake case , along with the Ukraine Murders) and some have obviously done so, and the ease of technology these days make it more possible. Even the Moors Murderers Audio taped the torture and murder of one of their victims. Also some Dictators may have filmed the torture and executions under them (Saddam Hussein's sons were reported to have done so) I find it hard to believe that any of these were sold on to a third party for profit. So are not truly snuff films in that sense
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The Nekromantik films are pretty bad.
Can't stand shit like that.
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Old 2nd August 2010, 07:36 PM
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Oh yeah, that gets me to another topic that just flat out pisses me off: Animal cruelty!

People who put that into their movies should be imprisoned, the only thing I find worth censoring.
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Old 3rd August 2010, 07:06 PM
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The murder footage by those kids in Russia was supposedly shot with a view to selling it as a snuff film from what I've read, as well as 'memento's' of their crimes.

I remember at the time the trial was ongoing clicking on a link which was worded as saying it was footage from the trial.
It was actually footage of one of the murders and it took about 5 seconds through shock before hitting the big red X button at the top right of the screen.

Not a lot fazes me but that was horrific beyond belief.
This was just " A KIND OF DEFENCE" they used, there was never any actual evidence put forward for this theory, like the fact they were going to make 40 films ( a very random figure).

while i agree it is very horrorific viewing and disturbing to watch ( but not as bad as Dagestan or Chechclear) then if this qualifies as snuff then so does the Happy slapping murder in London
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Ahh in that case I've deleted it for Internet accuracy. Thanks for the information Alex.
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