Melancholie der engel
 

Has anyone seen it or know where to get purchase it online? How does it compare against a serbian film? My buddy is comparing the two and I have no idea. Figured some of y'all would know about it. Thx


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Never heard of it, but reading up about it makes me want to see it. It sounds challenging and different, creating its own unique world of cinematic boundaries and rules. I'll have to try and find a copy now.

I have seen people on youtube talk about this film and saying they could only buy if from Germany with no subs. Im not sure if that has changed yet tho.

It's one I heard about but it's not one I own or have seen.
I believe it only had a limited underground release and I initially was interested in obtaining a copy a year or so back, as it seemed like my sort of thing but I then found out it was in German language only, with no subtitles, and that put me off. :(
I think you'd have to look to Germany to find it to be honest - try Ebay Germany or Amazon Germany etc.... ;)

but it is a completely different kettle of fish to Serbian Movie, but be warned it contains real animal cruelty

Hey Alex. I know you sold it and I was really upset.

It's all good now though because I own the German edition of the DVD.

That scene with the cat is horrible and I really hope it was faked. But I doubt it was.

It depresses the hell out of me that in this day and age some 'filmmakers' still think it's ok to torture or kill animals on camera. It's not big and it's not clever. CGI not good enough, you ****ing twat?

Absolutely depressing.


(Should anyone want to see it, it's free to view on Daily Motion. Normally I wouldn't mention something like that, but I rather people watched it for free instead of having the director make money off it through dvd sales)

*before anyone says but 'what about the Cannibal films?' I shall inform you that I don't own any of them anymore. Seen them all once, don't need to see them again.

Should I have a conscience, but personally I think that if the animal is killed for a film then it's ok. It's just one animal. They're even eaten sometimes.

There is a big difference between killing an animal for food and killing an animal for entertainment. Guess which one is not right.

Some people just seem to get really upset about it. I'm really not bothered by it.

Actually kinda related. Anyone have any idea where to get Reise Nach Agatis from? Has it even been released on DVD?

That is bullshit. Killing for food is a whole different thing. No living thing should be tortured or killed for the sake of 'entertainment'. Never.

And anyone who thinks that it's ok needs to have a serious word with themselves.

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I also find it a bit depressing that in this day and age animals are still killed for the sake of a film. I think that in the case of the Italian cannibal gut munchers I can kind of separate myself from them because these are films of a bygone age and, in the case of Deodato at least, the directors have expressed regret at having included such footage.

It's a tricky one. But I'll continue to watch and enjoy the cannibal flicks even if I don't agree with their methods. At least the animals are famous and won't be forgotten. So think of them as animal tribute films. :lol:

I can't say that this sounds like something i'd want to see whatsoever. But at the same time i'd be a bit of a hypocrite to condemn it considering i own virtually every Italian cannibal film ever made completely uncut.

Sounds like the kind of thing my poncy "film snob" mate would wet himself over, whilst dissing my "enjoyment" of say, Life & Death of A Porno Gang (which has animal abuse in it as well.....:blush:)

i'm sure if you showed some "civillians" Srpski, they would think that that scene was real as well. ;)

But for me, PASS. Men Behind The Sun was bad enough imo. Indeed in this day and age "being confrontational" has replaced any real attempt at substance, at least CH has a point to it, so in my mind it's justified, that is its been done, lets not rake over cold ash etc....

Very good post crat'


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Really wish someone would log in who watched this recently and review it and compare it to a Serbian film.


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http://couchcutter.com/2011/04/12/me...er-engel-2009/

I disagree. No way.


Nothing at all artistic about the animal killing. It was really unnecessary. It brought nothing to this movie.

i concur wonderlust. :popcorn:

I watched bits of it but since there was no subs I had no fooking idea what was going on.
I have it with subs now so will be watching it properly soon.:cool:

I've got this on the Shock dvd label with the slipcase and postcards, German lang no English subs.
This is NOT in the same ballpark as A Serbian Film. Or Mordum. Or Snuff 102. Or about a dozen other films.
The animal deaths; A lizard gets stepped on. A salamander gets squished between someone's fingers. The most disturbing is the slaughter of the pig. The cat looks well fake and they cut up a worm.
It's all very soft focus, you cannot connect in any way to the actors so therefore feel no empathy, it's not shocking or daring, it's just 2 and a half hours of shite.
Seriously, I mainly collect extreme films and this is wayyyy down the list.
If you really want it you can get it on Amazon.de. If you have trouble finding it by title, look up the director instead. 20 quid delivered.:)

There isn't much point getting or seeing it if you can't understand the language though, may as well down load it with the fan subs IMO.

Yes I've forgotten about this film at this point.


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This echoes how I feel about a lot of these newer releases. Men Behind The Sun, CH, the Jacopetti/Prosperi Mondo movies..they all contained challenging material but that is not their sole value. The trend nowadays with this and from what I've heard of Morgue Street is to really up the ante with sexual violence and animal cruelty as gore doesn't push the boundaries anymore...but it reaches a point where I have to question what am I watching? Personally I'm not even curious to see either of them and I never thought I'd hear myself say that.

Very good post zann. I agree.


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Thanks buddy :)

Reise Nach Agatis has been released on Werkmann filmverlag in Austria/Germany it comes on a 2 disc set with Debris Documentar which Melancholie der Engel supposed to be a remake of.

Where did you buy it from?

Also wondered if this disc has english subs on it?

DTM.AT

Wasn't cheap thou, and no totally english unfriendly

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