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Susan Foreman 24th July 2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411879)
Yawn! Same old, same old from Alice, with the exception of Dirty Diamonds.

He's getting a free ride, be adventurous in your song selection for a change.

It's a supporting slot

How many support bands do most people actually go and watch?

Answer - not many. They are too busy staying in the bar, or because they have to work, and then get something to eat, travel to the show etc, they don't get there much before the headlining act arrive

Alice also feels the need to put on a show which is very theatrical, to a) compete *cough* with the headline act, and b) it's what the fans want/expect

Don't forget that most Mutley Crow fans probably only know 'Schools Out' and 'Poison', so I think it's obvious that this is going to be a 'greatest hits' set to introduce his songs to the ears of the young whippersnappers in the audience!

Demdike@Cult Labs 24th July 2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 411883)
It's a supporting slot

How many support bands do most people actually go and watch?

Answer - not many. They are too busy staying in the bar, or because they have to work, and then get something to eat, travel to the show etc, they don't get there much before the headlining act arrive

Alice also feels the need to put on a show which is very theatrical, to a) compete *cough* with the headline act, and b) it's what the fans want/expect

Don't forget that most Mutley Crow fans probably only know 'Schools Out' and 'Poison', so I think it's obvious that this is going to be a 'greatest hits' set to introduce his songs to the ears of the young whippersnappers in the audience!

Really! Is that what you think? Rock fans aren't like that as you well know. Crue fans like Alice, Kiss, Van Halen, etc.

I doubt the fans are young whippersnappers either, most will be 30-50 i would think. The band aren't exactly cutting edge anymore and haven't been for 20 years.

Susan Foreman 24th July 2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 411883)
Don't forget that most Mutley Crow fans probably only know 'Schools Out' and 'Poison', so I think it's obvious that this is going to be a 'greatest hits' set to introduce his songs to the ears of the young whippersnappers in the audience!

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411884)
Really! Is that what you think? Rock fans aren't like that as you well know. Crue fans like Alice, Kiss, Van Halen, etc.

I doubt the fans are young whippersnappers either, most will be 30-50 i would think. The band aren't exactly cutting edge anymore and haven't been for 20 years.

I think that there are a lot of Crue fans who don't know much about Alice

Crue haven't been 'glam' since circa 1986 - between the 'Theatre of Pain' and 'Girls Girls Girls' LPs. Nowadays, they are more 'sleaze rock'

Although I have seen Nirvana, Mudhoney, Babes in Toyland, I really don't know much about the whole 'Grunge' movement. Similarly, although I might know the name 'Rammstein', Slipknot' and 'Limp Biscuit', I really don't know a lot about the music they perform

My 'formative' years were 1980 - 1990 (i.e the NWOBHM and the birth of thrash). However, because I was so narrow-minded back in those days, there are a lot of rock bands that I didn't give the time of day to, because they didn't have a 'traditional English sound', or they didn't play 'a million miles an hour'!

To be honest, during this time, I discounted Alice as a good artist for the simple reason he didn't fit in with the two examples above!

Now I have 'grown up', I am more willing to listen to different bands, but I am sure there are still people who are like the person I used to be

Oh - a lot of people like Mutley Crow because of the 'tits' - witness the Tommy-Cam segment on the 'Carnival of Sins' DVD. Alice is much more mature than that!

Demdike@Cult Labs 24th July 2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 411885)
I think that there are a lot of Crue fans who don't know much about Alice

Crue haven't been 'glam' since circa 1986 - between the 'Theatre of Pain' and 'Girls Girls Girls' LPs. Nowadays, they are more 'sleaze rock'

Although I have seen Nirvana, Mudhoney, Babes in Toyland, I really don't know much about the whole 'Grunge' movement. Similarly, although I might know the name 'Rammstein', Slipknot' and 'Limp Biscuit', I really don't know a lot about the music they perform

My 'formative' years were 1980 - 1990 (i.e the NWOBHM and the birth of thrash). However, because I was so narrow-minded back in those days, there are a lot of rock bands that I didn't give the time of day to, because they didn't have a 'traditional English sound', or they didn't play 'a million miles an hour'!

To be honest, during this time, I discounted Alice as a good artist for the simple reason he didn't fit in with the two examples above!

Now I have 'grown up', I am more willing to listen to different bands, but I am sure there are still people who are like the person I used to be

Oh - a lot of people like Mutley Crow because of the 'tits' - witness the Tommy-Cam segment on the 'Carnival of Sins' DVD. Alice is much more mature than that!

Don't take this the wrong way please as it's not meant to be an insult but your use of narrow minded does seem a perfect fit. You don't like new Who because it's not old Who as an example.

Every rock fan i know has always moved with the times and music, whilst also sticking by their old favourites. Your dismissal of most things that aren't The Who or Alice does tend to work against you at times.

If people just like Crue because of the tits as you put it, then they may as well just listen to rap.

I've probably phrased it all very badly, but absolutely no insult is intended Suzi. :)

applecore 24th July 2014 01:46 PM

I'd say more youngsters would be aware of Alice than Crue. Alice has been consistently in Kerrang and Metal Hammer over the past few years (not to mention regular headline tours with well-attended dates and festival shows), whereas Motley Crue really only had a re-surge in interest thanks to Kat Von D and Bam Margera - both of whom have gone out of fashion now.
As for Crue fans not knowing any Alice stuff - I completely disagree. I'm with Demdike on this one. Don't forget that Crue recently toured with KISS in the States.
If anything, it's likely that Alice has the support slot rather than the headline slot purely because it's meant to be Crue's farewell tour. They've taken headline place for that reason, and chosen Alice as support as it'll bring a larger crowd. If it was Motley Crue with some random band of a similar genre, they'd struggle to fill the venues.

Susan Foreman 24th July 2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 411885)
I think that there are a lot of Crue fans who don't know much about Alice

Crue haven't been 'glam' since circa 1986 - between the 'Theatre of Pain' and 'Girls Girls Girls' LPs. Nowadays, they are more 'sleaze rock'

Although I have seen Nirvana, Mudhoney, Babes in Toyland, I really don't know much about the whole 'Grunge' movement. Similarly, although I might know the name 'Rammstein', Slipknot' and 'Limp Biscuit', I really don't know a lot about the music they perform

My 'formative' years were 1980 - 1990 (i.e the NWOBHM and the birth of thrash). However, because I was so narrow-minded back in those days, there are a lot of rock bands that I didn't give the time of day to, because they didn't have a 'traditional English sound', or they didn't play 'a million miles an hour'!

To be honest, during this time, I discounted Alice as a good artist for the simple reason he didn't fit in with the two examples above!

Now I have 'grown up', I am more willing to listen to different bands, but I am sure there are still people who are like the person I used to be

Oh - a lot of people like Mutley Crow because of the 'tits' - witness the Tommy-Cam segment on the 'Carnival of Sins' DVD. Alice is much more mature than that!

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411886)
Don't take this the wrong way please as it's not meant to be an insult but your use of narrow minded does seem a perfect fit

No offense taken, because I admit that I was very narrow-minded back in the day. However, age has now taken it's toll, and I am more than happy to hold my hands up and admit that I was wrong - oh, the innocence of youth!

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411886)
You don't like new Who because it's not old Who as an example.

I do like Nu-Who, but I don't think it's as good as Classic-Who. It used to be about good story telling, and now it is about big budget SFX, and 'who-can-we-get-for-the-celebrity-guest-star-this-week'!

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411886)
Every rock fan i know has always moved with the times and music, whilst also sticking by their old favourites. Your dismissal of most things that aren't The Who or Alice does tend to work against you at times

As stated above, I HAVE moved on. There was a time when I was not a fan of Alice, and I didn't like The Who - they were a MOD band, and I was a rocker! Blame school peer-pressure (I was the only rocker in a school full of MODS and skinheads, so I wouldn't like their music on principal). Again, I am more than willing to admit that I was wrong with this attitude. Nowadays, the music I do not listen to are than bands I loved during the 80's - Bathory, Venom, Possessed, Celtic Frost etc

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411886)
If people just like Crue because of the tits as you put it, then they may as well just listen to rap.

And I'm sure they do, the same way that some metalheads like rap - Faith No More, Beastie Boys, Run DMC etc

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 411886)
I've probably phrased it all very badly, but absolutely no insult is intended Suzi. :)

As I mentioned, none taken

Incidentally, I used to be a big fan of the Crow. I have the 'Too Fast For Love' vinyl release (on the original Leathür Records label), the original gatefold release of 'Shout At The Devil', Theatre of Pain, Girls, Girls, Girls and Dr. Feelgood and the aforementioned 'Carnival of Sins' DVD

applecore 24th July 2014 01:52 PM

I'd also disagree with people only liking Crue for the tits - we live in a world where the internet is a thing, and it is a thing that is full of tits and more. You don't have to go to a concert to see breasts anymore. (In fact, that sort of thing is probably dying out now. I haven't seen concert-knockers in probably 10 years!)

Demdike@Cult Labs 24th July 2014 01:53 PM

Well, seeing as it's only Suze, Applecore and i who have posted anything on the forum in the last three hours i think we should all chill out on the porch with a cold beer and watch the tumbleweeds roll by on the rest of the forum. :nod:

applecore 24th July 2014 02:05 PM

Haha, well it's just past midnight here so I'll be soon logging off for the night anyway!

jhippyfro 24th July 2014 03:21 PM

I've seen Alice live once, it was a great show.
Veary theatrical.
He cut his head off with a guillotine and stabbed a baby with a sword during Billion Doller Babies.

Generation Landslide, Hard Hearted Alice, I Better Be Good, Is It My Body,
and any thing off of Killers, Goes To Hell and Welcome To My Nightmare
are among my plethora of favorites.:rockon:

Susan Foreman 31st July 2014 09:46 AM

RIP Dick Wagner

Richard 'Dick' Wagner was one of Alice's most notable guitarists. He first turned up on the 'School's Out' album, where he provided the solo on the song 'My Stars'.

He appeared on 'Billion Dollar Babies', playing guitar and co-writing 'I Love The Dead', although his contribution to the lyrics is uncredited.

He then played on 'Muscle Of Love'

With the break up of the original Alice Cooper Group, and the emergence of Alice Cooper (the solo artist), Wagner was probably the single most important musician on board. His sense of melody and guitar playing were essential to Alice's survival on his own.

He co-wrote and performed with Alice on all the albums from 'Welcome To My Nightmare' until 'From The Inside'.

He later turned up on 'Zipper Catches Skin', 'Dada' and co-wrote 'Might As Well Be On Mars' for the 'Hey Stoopid' album, although he didn't play on the record

Apparently he also co-wrote some material for 'The Last Temptation' which didn't make the final album.

On July 30th 2014, it was anounced that Dick Wagner had passed away following a series of heart and lung problems.

troggi 1st August 2014 08:03 PM

I remember buying "From the Inside" and a workmate saying "it's crap, Wagner's not on it!" He was a stalwart fan who felt about the "Alice Cooper Band" in much the same way as I felt about the classic Deep Purple, Yes and Uriah Heep line-ups. I think that he was wrong about the album being "crap" but right about Wagner, he was a great contributor to the Alice Cooper mythos and will be missed.

Susan Foreman 1st August 2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by troggi (Post 412909)
I remember buying "From the Inside" and a workmate saying "it's crap, Wagner's not on it!" He was a stalwart fan who felt about the "Alice Cooper Band" in much the same way as I felt about the classic Deep Purple, Yes and Uriah Heep line-ups. I think that he was wrong about the album being "crap" but right about Wagner, he was a great contributor to the Alice Cooper mythos and will be missed.

'From The Inside' is one of my favourite Alice albums

Incidentally, Dick Wagner IS on the album, alongside Steve Lukather (from Toto)and Rick Nielsen (from Cheap Trick). He also co-wrote 7 of the ten songs included

Also, your mate was wrong. 'FTI' is not by the Alice Cooper Band. It is by Alice Cooper as a solo artist

Susan Foreman 12th August 2014 11:11 PM

With the untimely death of Robin Williams in mind...

...Did you know that Alice Cooper is mentioned in the very first episode of 'Mork And Mindy'?

Mork and Mindy Season 1 Episode 1 Pilot - YouTube

From about 13 minutes in

Susan Foreman 22nd August 2014 11:40 PM

It seems that there will be a new live Alice DVD released soon

""Raise The Dead - Live At Wacken" will be available as DVD + CD Digipack . The DVD contains 22 songs from the Wacken concert and bonus material shows an interview with the man himself. The double CD has the complete concert. BluRay Amaray (Full HD). FSK 12, running time 75 min plus another 20 min of interview. 22 Songs LIVE…. a phenomenal stage show, all classics in one package + – Alice Cooper – one the biggest entertainers ever! Just enjoy the show!

RELEASE DATE:
DE: October 17th, 2014
UK: October 20th, 2014
US: October 21st, 2014"


Alice Cooper - "Raise The Dead | Live From Wacken" Trailer - YouTube

Susan Foreman 23rd August 2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 415145)
It seems that there will be a new live Alice DVD released soon

""Raise The Dead - Live At Wacken"

Track listing:

"Hello Hooray, House Of Fire, No More Mr Nice Guy, Under My Wheels, I'll Bite Your Face Off, Billion Dollar Babies, Caffeine, Department Of Youth, Hey Stoopid, Dirty Diamonds, Welcome To My Nightmare, Go To Hell, He's Back (The Man Behind The Mask), Feed My Frankenstein, Ballad Of Dwight Fry, Killer/I Love The Dead, Break On Through, My Generation, Poison, School's Out (inc. Another Brick In The Wall)"

For some reason, it appeared that the covers of "Revolution" and "Foxy Lady", which were performed at the show, are not included on the release

Susan Foreman 10th September 2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 411872)
Rumour has it that the upcoming covers album will feature Paul McCartney

Mucho confusion!!!!

Apparently there is a Paul McCartney tribute covers album due to be released soon - Kiss, Alice Cooper and Bob Dylan Lead All-Star 'Art of McCartney' Tribute

It's possible that Alice was meeting with Paul for this project, and not the Alice covers album

Susan Foreman 23rd September 2014 09:26 AM

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When people find out that I am a fan of Alice Cooper, one of the questions that ALWAYS seems to come us is...what is the meaning of the make-up

Well, when he has been wearing make-up, Alice has had a number of looks:

Eyes

When he first started wearing eye make-up, the first design is known as 'the spider eyes' [fig 1]. Yes, the design looks like spiders, but the actual concept comes from the heavy make-up worn by Bette Davis in 'Whatever Happened To Baby Jane', mixed with the idea of "tears of someone crying making the mascara run"

This was later changed to the more famous 'Clown' make-up, and this is actually inspired by the sad clown which would appear in Italian opera [fig 2]

Mouth

When it comes to the mouth area, most people assume that this is supposed to represent (either) vampire fangs, or a trail of blood down the chin where a victim has been bitten. However, the actual design is (I think) more disturbing that that. The lines down Alice's face represent a ventriloquist dummy [pic 3]

Susan Foreman 1st October 2014 03:38 PM

Alice covers 'Eleanor Rigby' for the 'Art of McCartney' Tribute album

Alice Cooper - Eleanor Rigby - YouTube

It seems a bit of a pointless cover. The tune is so much like The Beatles version, they might just as well used the original backing track, and there is none of the Alice persona in the vocals

It's a loving version yes, but it could have been so much more

Susan Foreman 12th October 2014 05:10 PM

Alice Cooper's Dead Drunk Friends | VICE United States

Susan Foreman 26th October 2014 08:52 AM

BBC4 is showing the 'Brutally Live' concert at midnight on Friday 31st Oct/Saturday 1st Nov

"The rocker's inimitable stage show, filmed at the Hammersmith Apollo, London, in July 2000, in support of his album Brutal Planet. The musician combines his distinct brand of rock and theatre with the use of elaborate props to unsettle and surprise his audience. His trademark demonic style is manifested with his famous costumes and sets that include a guillotine, a werewolf baby, pools of fake blood and thick black eye makeup."

It's a very good show, but I wish they would pick up the 'Theatre Of Death' show, and screen that!

Susan Foreman 18th November 2014 04:33 PM

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It has been announced that Alice will be returning to Hellfest in France for the festival which takes place between 19th and 21st June in Clisson.

Headliners across the weekend appear to be Slipknot, Scorpions and Faith No More so it looks like he will have a special guest slot.

Demdike@Cult Labs 18th November 2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 425771)
It has been announced that Alice will be returning to Hellfest in France for the festival which takes place between 19th and 21st June in Clisson.

Headliners across the weekend appear to be Slipknot, Scorpions and Faith No More so it looks like he will have a special guest slot.

Apart from Rise Against, that's one killer line up. :rockon:

troggi 18th November 2014 05:26 PM

The cheapo DAB radio in the kitchen crevice of the cave here is permanently tuned to Planet Rock so that when I go to make Pearl's nightly cocoa I don't have to tune it in to listen to the "Nights with Alice Cooper" show. It's easily the best show on radio since Rick Wakeman stopped doing his Saturday afternoon show. Al Murray's "Defender of the Planet Rock Tradition" on a Sunday afternoon is good too but Alice is on another level entirely!

Susan Foreman 18th November 2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by troggi (Post 425775)
The cheapo DAB radio in the kitchen crevice of the cave here is permanently tuned to Planet Rock so that when I go to make Pearl's nightly cocoa I don't have to tune it in to listen to the "Nights with Alice Cooper" show. It's easily the best show on radio since Rick Wakeman stopped doing his Saturday afternoon show. Al Murray's "Defender of the Planet Rock Tradition" on a Sunday afternoon is good too but Alice is on another level entirely!

I only have Planet Rock playing in the bar and, yes - Alice's show is always enjoyable

profondo rosso 18th November 2014 06:25 PM

I have planet rock on in the kitchen, on my dab alarm clock next to my bed and also just had my in-car dab fixed due to dodgy seat aerial and its now up and running in there too now. Alice Cooper is so hilariously dry witted, not afraid to say anything about anyone. Even the adverts for his show are great....'Alice Cooper doent need to flush the toilet.....he just scares the crap out of it'! Does any other DJ in this country have that as a selling point? classic.

Susan Foreman 23rd November 2014 11:35 AM

It looks like Alice is appearing at the Graspop Festival in Belgium sometime between the 19 - 21 June, 2015

https://www.graspop.be/nl/poster

profondo rosso 23rd November 2014 12:38 PM

that looks like a good line up Suzi :rockon:

Susan Foreman 20th December 2014 11:54 AM

Here's a bit of trivia for you

When the film 'The Exorcist' had it's London premier in March 1974, Alice attended as the special guest of Linda Blair

troggi 20th December 2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by suziginajackson (Post 429112)
Here's a bit of trivia for you

When the film 'The Exorcist' had it's London premier in March 1974, Alice attended as the special guest of Linda Blair

I went to see "The Exorcist" incognito because, as a 14 year old, I was too young to get in. My disguise, if you could call it that, was a brown paper bag over my head with eye holes cut out! Strangely, as I started to hand my money over, a familiar voice said "it's alright Leslie, you can go in for free!" It was my mate's mum, Mrs Marsh, who was working the box office but how she saw through my foolproof disguise...:jollysanta:

Susan Foreman 30th December 2014 08:29 PM

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Circa 1967 - Before they were The Alice Cooper Band, they were The Nazz (Alice in centre of pic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN2QhveORc0

troggi 1st January 2015 11:35 PM

Some pretty advanced lyrics for '67 there Suzi compared with say; "Daydream Believer" and "Puppet on a string!"

Make Them Die Slowly 1st January 2015 11:46 PM

Tod Rundgren's Nazz are worth checking out too. I think they were formed before Alice's band hence the change to Alice Cooper.

Susan Foreman 16th January 2015 09:15 AM

RIP Kim Fowley

Although he is probably best remembered for the all girl group The Runaways, he also co-wrote the song 'Escape' from "Welcome To My Nightmare"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qgkple874w

Fowley later sued Randy Bachman, from Bachman Turner Overdrive claiming that the song 'Down To The Line' (from the album 'Head On') sounded like 'Escape' (Alice was not involved as he wrote the lyrics and not the music). BTO settled out of court and he both Fowley and Cooper had their names added to the publishing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1kzz0Xjsh0

Susan Foreman 20th January 2015 04:14 PM

Well, this is disappointing!

Motley Crue have announced the dates for the second leg of their 'farewell' tour in 2015

Once again, Alice is going to be the special guest for most of these

Dates announced:

July 22 - Eugene, OR @Matthew Knight Arena *
July 24 - Tacoma, WA @ Tacoma Dome *
July 26 - Billings, MT @ Rimrock Auto Arena at MetraPark *
July 28 - Boise, ID @ Taco Bell Arena *
July 29 - Salt Lake City, UT @ EnergySolutions Arena *
July 31 - Denver, CO @ Pepsi Center *
August 3 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre *
August 5 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center *
August 7 - Milwaukee, WI @ BMO Harris Bradley Center *
August 8 - Chicago, IL @ Allstate Arena *
August 9 - Detroit, MI @ The Palace of Auburn Hills *
August 11 - Hershey, PA @ Giant Center *
August 12 - New York, NY @ Barclays Center *
August 14 - Philadelphia, PA @ Wells Fargo Center *
August 15 - Worcester, MA @ DCU Center *
August 16 - Uncasville, CT @ Mohegan Sun Arena *
August 18 - Cleveland, OH @ Quicken Loans Arena *
August 19 - Cincinnati, OH @ U.S. Bank Arena *
August 20 - Indianapolis, IN @ Bankers Life Fieldhouse *
August 22 - Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre *
August 23 - Ottawa, ON @ Canadian Tire Centre *
August 24 - Montreal, QC @ Bell Centre *
August 26 - Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms Arena *
August 28 - Raleigh, NC @ PNC Arena *
August 29 - Charlotte, NC @ Time Warner Cable Arena *
August 30 - Atlanta, GA @ Philips Arena *
September 2 - Miami, FL @ American Airlines Arena
September 4 - New Orleans, LA @ Smoothie King Center *
September 5 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
September 6 - San Antonio, TX @ Alamodome
September 15 Monterrey, NL @ Arena Monterrey
September 10 - Mexico City, DF @ Arena Ciudad de Mexico
TBA - Las Vegas, NV @ TBA
December 31 - Los Angeles, CA @ Staples Center

* With Alice Cooper

Susan Foreman 6th February 2015 09:19 AM

An amusing little scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kslzzWD9IPk

Demdike@Cult Labs 16th February 2015 12:19 PM

Alice Cooper, Joe Perry And Johnny Depp To Perform At Rock In Rio As Hollywood Vampires - Blabbermouth.net

Susan Foreman 18th February 2015 10:52 AM

A very interesting blog entry by Kyler Clarke, who performs as the FrankenALice on stage

Be warned tho - there are spoilers about how the effect is executed (pardon the pun)

A View From The Top - Confessions Of A CerealKyler

I'm assuming that this is the same way that Iron Maiden bring Eddie to life during their shows as well

Here is footage of the FrankenAliceGaga creature in action!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPAUimefCg

Demoncrat 18th February 2015 12:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEcofEk1wSA

Demoncrat 18th February 2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Make Them Die Slowly (Post 430189)
Tod Rundgren's Nazz are worth checking out too. I think they were formed before Alice's band hence the change to Alice Cooper.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apW-fj11T_k


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