SHAM029/SHAM200 - New York Ripper HD: The BBFC Verdict Shameless have resubmitted New York Ripper to the BBFC and we now have the verdict which is that the current cuts still stand. Shameless appealed this decision however the BBFC have stated that the scene in question is against their policy regarding sexualised violence and so has to go. Despite this, however, there's plenty of good news. As with Shameless’s original New York Ripper DVD, the cuts have been edited so that the running time remains unaffected and they’re going to make sure that the BBFC don’t get this wrong on the website this time! In addition to this, Shameless have painstakingly sourced and added approximately 3 minutes of footage not in the previous Shameless version, as well as adding a new scene of approximately 15 seconds not present in the Blue Underground BD, making this the longest version of the film available anywhere. Add into this some as-yet-secret-but-stunning extras, a beautiful high definition transfer and that packaging, this is still a version of New York Ripper that is worth viewing and owning and demonstrates Shameless's continued commitment to fans including doing all they could with the BBFC with a tiny cut. More info on the release including extras and finalised artwork will be released in the coming weeks so keep your eyes peeled! For more info on why some Shameless releases are cut, check out the Shameless FAQ section. Please note that any discussion of the BBFC decision is to take place on this thread only - comments posted on other threads to do with this release will be removed as we need to keep threads tidy and focused. |
Quick question Sarah, are those 3 mins in the BU version? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
If it's edited in the same way as the DVD,then it's no big deal.:) |
Now that's interesting. Big shame about the BBFC but I've always felt some scenes seemed to be a bit too abrupt.. I wonder if the new footage fills them out. This makes it a buy for me eventually. :) |
Thanks for the update, Sarah. :) It's unfortunate that the cuts weren't waived, but great news about the additional scenes. Speaking of which, I'm very much looking forward to hearing the details of what those scenes will entail. My pre-order still stands. ;) |
Great stuff guys.:clap: If it weren't for support from folk like yourselves,then we wouldn't have these indie labels. |
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Yeah i see what you mean. So even with the cut, the Shameless BD will be the longest version available.Excellent news. Lovely yellow Shameless goodness. Can't wait! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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A real shame the BBFC didn't reconsider...but it is like it is... Anyway will be getting this one,even if it's cut (a tiny bit),out of interest and to support Shameless. I'm expecting some incredible new releases to be announced for the support though. ;) |
Good man B! As for the releases-although I haven't a Scooby Do what they are-Sarah's a woman of her word.:) (Scooby Do-Glasgow rhyming slang for 'Clue'!) :lol: |
What a shame. Oh well, I suppose one should congratulate Shameless for making the best of a bad lot. Not sure I'm keen on the idea of disguising the cuts to maintain the running time, however. Reminds me of Ferman's re-editing ideas. I don't suppose we will ever see a definitive release of this film. I guess the only option is to buy both the Shameless and BU versions. |
Thanks for the update. I personally am grateful for these cuts, because I'm sure we'd all become rapists with voice defects if they were left in. Like I said, I'm buying this either way, thanks for bothering to do a DVD version-up! Excited to see the new footage and the extras! I have a bootleg version with all the slicing and dicing, I'll hang on to that for when I'm in the dungeon. |
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Seriously though, the extra 3 mins is gonna make this a cracker version of NYR and as for the BBFC's decision, well im disappointed but not surprised as I do get their point ,there is some sick ****er's out there plus theres also the growing issue of self harm to consider on their part (BBFC) . For me its not that big deal a losing that short scene and im a BIG Fulci fan, as Shameless done a great editing job so please dont let this put anyone off buying Shameless NYR BD or DVD as the Shameless edited scene is actually more disturbing in a way that im sure Fulci himself would approve . It's FULCI in Hi Def on UK store shelves so com'on , lets get excited and please lets all support this release and keep the great mans name alive here in the UK . |
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Well said sir! :clap: |
I wonder what the extra 3 mins are? The 15sec scene could be the one that was moved to another part of the film in the BU version. |
I hope they're not an extension to the scene in the sex club. That scene goes on waaay to long for my liking. I hate seeing people doing 'things' to eachother or prancing about naked. |
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It's a shame about the ruling from Soho Square but my pre-order still exists and am really looking forward to seeing how this one is edited and compares to the BU version and the previous Shameless DVDs. I think it's time some of the BBFC's mysterious policies were updated as there is no way that that scene is sexualised violence of the sort that would give someone erotic pleasure or in some way incite violence towards women. |
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I'll be picking this up regardless, anything to support Shameless, and it's another chance to own a film like this in a glorious HD remaster. :D If need be, I'll get the American version too for completion's sake. |
the cuts are annoying to say the least and I'm still in two minds as to getting it or not because of this - the only thing that will make me get this is what the extras will be. Kudos to shameless for going the extra mile to try and get it passed though. Presumeably the packageing will make it clear that the cuts have been made not just being the longest running time - don't want to go the vipco route do we;) |
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Shameless did indeed do as much as they could to get this passed by re-submitting and then appealing. Anyone annoyed by the cut cannot, I think, blame Shameless for lack of trying! As for the packaging, I'm sure Shameless will make it clear as to the running time and cut. The other important thing, of course, is making sure the BBFC get it right on their website. When Shameless first released NYR back in 2007, the BBFC made an error and claimed that the cuts were much longer than they actually were! :doh: |
Isn't that error also to be found on the back of the DVD cover? |
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I look forward to seeing this. Sounds like Shameless have gone above and beyond to deliver with the product and as fans in the UK, we cannot ask for more than that. |
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Well I do have the uncut R1 dvd and April is a long way off and it is very tempting,I may just get this after all as I didn't get the shameless dvd because it said it had 34 seconds of cuts :laugh: |
This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but i've seen a few posts on other sites with people moaning that it's cut and they'll stick with their uncut releases from elsewhere. Everyone is entitled to do that of course, but even with the cut, the Shameless BD will apparently be the longest version of the film available anywhere. I do find it strange that even with that knowledge, a lot of people can't see past the cut. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Well for me it's just that - it's been censored - nothing more nothing less,no particular logic to it,that knowledge just grinds away in the back of my mind that someone at the bbfc has seen fit to take scissors to a film to save me from going out and recreating the film for real.:rant: Having said that in this case I already have the uncut version on dvd and on this version there are exclusive extras I can be swayed into buying this bd as well - if the price is right. In fact after reading what the extras are I nipped over to amazon and preordered it along with strange vice of mrs wardh |
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Unless that's changed recently..... |
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No extra seconds and extra material can make up for a censored murder scene. I don´t understand why Shameless choose to release a cut version of New York Ripper as their first BD release. Especially since the Blue-Underground disc is so easy to find. Would rather have seen a BD of "Torso" or "My dear killer" as a first release. |
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You are forgetting that not everyone uses the internet if they did nobody would walk into a high street shop and pay £25 - £30 for a bluray when it's £15 - £18 online,but they do. The cuts are a shame but unavoidable in this country and climate - I have to assume that there is not some loophole where shameless can release it unrated online only. Also I only recently found out that the BU disc is region free none of the sites I regularly use had this info in the specs - so yes its easily available but telling you it wont play outside the states. |
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