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I know it stood no chance of getting past the BBFC with out heavy cutting atleast. What I ment was the BBFC 'delayed' classifying this film until the reading of the bill for their own reasons. To say it was pure timing is like saying LH Oswald shot JFK, or Roswell is just an Airforce base with no alien's in it. IMO the film was delayed then banned at the right time. Any reason for a delay is easily covered by the 'we're trying to cut it'excuse then the papers get to hear about it (i wonder how ?) and report how are moral gardians are apt at doing the job in hand. Please dont take this as me ranting, or having ago at your post Angel, Im just saying my own beliefs and am in no way dissing yours. What is the big deal about the BBFC with naked people, they allow them to do dirty things to each other on film and thats ok, but as soon as somebody kills one it becomes a problem. Maybe if they weren't nude they wouldn't get killed in the first place. Last edited by vipco; 26th May 2008 at 09:42 AM. |
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It's possible for different editing of a scene to change it's impact, tone or completely hangine it's perceived meaning - editing a scene out for censorship reasons is no different. See Straw Dogs as a case in point - reputedly the BBFC asked for the rape scene to be cut but the way it was done actually made it seem nastier by appearing to change the nature of the rape.
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The BBFC often cut rape scenes or scenes of sexualised violence because of the lingering focus on nudity which can cause a "harmful" response in some viewers eg I Spit on Your Grave, Tombs of the Blind Dead, Ichi the Killer, House on the Edge of the Park, Scrapbook etc. Cuts required under the VRA. |
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Ach Angel, are you telling me you believe that, c'mon. The BBFC aren't gonna publish all their buiness. Do you think that a firm that denies a nation access to films only after they've approved them or removed bits wouldn't pull a stunt like that when their structure is threatened .? MSP was the BBFC's 'patsy' or 'sacrifical lamb' to keep things sweet to ensure their survival. If I e mailed them and asked them that do you think i'd get a truthful answer.? |
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I couldn't see MSP passing in any form whether the BBFC had been told to delay the decision or not. Maniac was also originally rejected for cinema back in the 80's after spending what seemed like a small lifetime at the BBFC, and Ferman rejected it again for video in 1998 (even under the new Labour government). |
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Yes. The BBFC always tell the truth whatever the consequences |
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Yes that's right Vince, MSP would have been banned no matter what the political situation at the time was. There is simply no way a film like this could be passed in the UK.
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Dont get me wrong, im not sticking up for MSP but I think the announcement of the ban came at a very convenient time from the BBFC. I acknowledge that yourself and Vince have far superior information and knowledge of the BBFC than I could ever hope to atain, and I do appreciate you both taking time to explain sometimes what can be a silly enquiry to me. I know your more than likely right about the announcement being coincidental but surely the BBFC would have thought that people would have came to the same conclusion as me, particularly as the full film was submitted, not the R version , or so im told, and with the films owner believing it should cause little problems with the censor, and released the news at a different time. Thankyou both for the input. Anyone else having problems signing in today.? I've been signed out twice and the page froze twice Last edited by vipco; 26th May 2008 at 04:34 PM. |
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Alright,now that that's all sorted,what about the shameless release of NEW YORK RIPPER? |
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