The 88 Films Thread

[Stephen@Cult Labs]

No idea. I think the idea of an RRP is silly, especially when a disc is first released. They should say "this is the price, end of".

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

As far as I'm aware, most releases have three prices:
– a dealer listing price, which is how much a retailer pays for the unit
– a recommended retail price, which is how much the distributor thinks the retailer should charge and
– the actual price the customer pays

This may not be the case with all labels, but it's how it is laid out on the press releases from Eureka, for example.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs

As far as I'm aware, most releases have three prices:
– a dealer listing price, which is how much a retailer pays for the unit
– a recommended retail price, which is how much the distributor thinks the retailer should charge and
– the actual price the customer pays

This may not be the case with all labels, but it's how it is laid out on the press releases from Eureka, for example.

For example, a DLP could be £12.56, the RRP is £19.99 and the price on the shelves is £14.99. The customer thinks the price has been reduced by £5, the retailer makes a profit of £2.43 and, if the unit costs £8 in total, then the label makes £4.56 for each one sold to HMV/Amazon etc.

I'm pretty sure someone in the industry would be up to give a better example, or even correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding.

[Stephen@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs

For example, a DLP could be £12.56, the RRP is £19.99 and the price on the shelves is £14.99. The customer thinks the price has been reduced by £5, the retailer makes a profit of £2.43 and, if the unit costs £8 in total, then the label makes £4.56 for each one sold to HMV/Amazon etc.



I'm pretty sure someone in the industry would be up to give a better example, or even correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding.

Bloody hell! That makes the £7.99 price HMV sell 88's discs for, even more ludicrous!

[DayzeUK]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs

For example, a DLP could be £12.56, the RRP is £19.99 and the price on the shelves is £14.99. The customer thinks the price has been reduced by £5, the retailer makes a profit of £2.43 and, if the unit costs £8 in total, then the label makes £4.56 for each one sold to HMV/Amazon etc.

I'm pretty sure someone in the industry would be up to give a better example, or even correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding.

Based on what has been posted.

That would mean 88 films are selling blurays to HMV for £1 odd if we are to believe that they only make £1 odd off each sale.

Or, worst deal ever, they sell to HMV who then set the price and send £1 odd per copy sold to 88 films.

It just doesn't make sense how HMV can sell so low but 88 Films dont get a proper share. Surely 88 Films make their money before HMV even receive their copies to sell.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs

Bloody hell! That makes the £7.99 price HMV sell 88's discs for, even more ludicrous!

I have no idea if those figures are quoted are accurate now, but they seem to be about what I remember from the Masters of Cinema releases from several years ago.

You could probably knock £7-£8 off and change the numbers slightly – I was only getting a 'for example', rather than a definitive explanation of how the industry works.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

I always thought the retailer ordered X amount of discs at a set fee payable to the distributor, say £5 a disc, then sell them for whatever they wanted.

I can find out as i know someone who ran an indie record shop for several years before he was sold the business.

[Stephen@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

I always thought the retailer ordered X amount of discs at a set fee payable to the distributor, say £5 a disc, then sell them for whatever they wanted.

I can find out as i know someone who ran an indie record shop for several years before he was sold the business.

That's the thing, I'm sure there are different ways different companies do it. I just want them to sell American Ninja ar a reasonable price so they can get a decent profit if they put them all in individual blu-ray cases

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs

That's the thing, I'm sure there are different ways different companies do it. I just want them to sell American Ninja ar a reasonable price so they can get a decent profit if they put them all in individual blu-ray cases

With your cover designs.

I read your post yesterday.

[platostotal]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

I always thought the retailer ordered X amount of discs at a set fee payable to the distributor, say £5 a disc, then sell them for whatever they wanted.

I can find out as i know someone who ran an indie record shop for several years before he was sold the business.

Yep, sounds spot on, just like if you buy something it's then up to you what you sell it for, I'll tempt fate and say the retailer makes a bigger profit margin than the supplier, so if HMV sell a BD for £7.99 or £17.99 the amount of profit will always be biased in their favor.