Powerhouse Films - Page 57

Demdike@Cult Labs · #**561** 6th June 2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reaper Man@Cult Labs

Okay let's start again.
Spaghetti,Eastwood,Peckinpah,Bronson or Gritty.....

I'm not up for the 'Oklahoma,home on the range,where the buffalo roam' -'type' western.
Maybe I'm wrong......do these westerns contain violence like the abovementioned suspects?

Some do. Not the early sound stage stuff. I'm not keen on that.

I highly recommend The Professionals (1966) with Lancaster, Ryan, Marvin, Cardinale and Palance. The fact they are on the run from the Mexican army gives it a feel of a spaghetti western.

Rob4 · #**562** 6th June 2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reaper Man@Cult Labs

Okay let's start again.
Spaghetti,Eastwood,Peckinpah,Bronson or Gritty.....

I'm not up for the 'Oklahoma,home on the range,where the buffalo roam' -'type' western.
Maybe I'm wrong......do these westerns contain violence like the abovementioned suspects?

i think the point MB is making is that westerns went through evolutionary phases in terms of themes explored and the violence portrayed and you would never have had the grittiness without the likes of Boetticher and Mann dipping their toes in the murkier waters. hell, even Ford developed - look at The Searchers, basically Wayne was playing a racist/sociopath. there were many 50s westerns that were not just about the black hat versus the white hat.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs · #**563** 6th June 2018, 04:16 PM

I think the point MB is making is pounds make prizes!

(Please note the emoji's!)

Michael Brooke · #**564** 6th June 2018, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob4

i think the point MB is making is that westerns went through evolutionary phases in terms of themes explored and the violence portrayed and you would never have had the grittiness without the likes of Boetticher and Mann dipping their toes in the murkier waters. hell, even Ford developed - look at The Searchers, basically Wayne was playing a racist/sociopath.

Or indeed look at Boetticher's Decision at Sundown, where we spent the first twenty minutes cheering Randolph Scott on as he embarks on his righteous revenge mission, only to discover that the facts of the matter are a lot more complicated and nuanced than he'd have us believe. There's a direct line from films like that to Unforgiven three decades later, as I imagine Clint Eastwood would be the first to acknowledge.