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Old 3rd November 2014, 05:05 PM
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Star Wars was exactly what I was thinking about when I drew the Sci-Fi/Fantasy parallels.

There are also dystopian or surrealistic fantasies such as Welle's The Trial and Has' The Hourglass Sanatorium (the latter being one of my all time favourites) which I'm uncertain whether to include in the list or not at present.
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Old 3rd November 2014, 05:08 PM
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Star Wars was exactly what I was thinking about when I drew the Sci-Fi/Fantasy parallels.

There are also dystopian or surrealistic fantasies such as Welle's The Trial and Has' The Hourglass Sanatorium (the latter being one of my all time favourites) which I'm uncertain whether to include in the list or not at present.
I would say it would come down to one question.

Can you justify its inclusion?

I would argue that star wars has a lot of the tropes of sci-fi in spite of being fantasy.
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Old 3rd November 2014, 05:13 PM
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I would say it would come down to one question.

Can you justify its inclusion?

I would argue that star wars has a lot of the tropes of sci-fi in spite of being fantasy.
I tend to find that I can ALWAYS justify a film's inclusion on almost any list.

Mainly because I despise genre definition and in particular genre rigidity, but also I have a complex where I end up talking myself into including something based on it being close to or sharing certain themes or elements of something else that could be classed as such... I'm really terrible for doing this.
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Old 3rd November 2014, 05:38 PM
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I tend to find that I can ALWAYS justify a film's inclusion on almost any list.

Mainly because I despise genre definition and in particular genre rigidity, but also I have a complex where I end up talking myself into including something based on it being close to or sharing certain themes or elements of something else that could be classed as such... I'm really terrible for doing this.
Same here, which is why I prefer to keep my lists around 10-30 long to keep the essentials instead of going off on tangents which is always going to happen in a top 100 list.

And I've always known Star Wars as a space opera
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I can't believe you guys are actually contemplating whether Star Wars should be on a sci-fi list.
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I know! It's clearly a cut and dry romantic comedy.
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Old 7th November 2014, 05:49 PM
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My list. Subject to possible change.

1 - The Empire Strikes Back
2 - The Black Hole
3 - Planet of the Apes
4 - Jurassic Park
5 - Strange Days
6 - Escape from New York
7 - War of the Worlds
8 - Mars Attacks!
9 - The Invisible Man
10 - Flash Gordon
11 - Daleks! Invasion Earth 2150 AD
12 - Mad Max 2
13 - Moonraker
14 - Return of the Jedi
15 - Warlords of Atlantis
16 - Terminator 2 Judgement Day
17 - Star Trek the Voyage Home
18 - The Earth Dies Screaming
19 - Immortel
20 - The Matrix
21 - Star Trek First Contact
22 - Battle for the Planet of the Apes
23 - Waterworld
24 - Starship Troopers
25 - The Omega Man
26 - Planet of the Vampires
27 - Space Truckers
28 - Gwendoline
29 - The Crawling Eye
30 - Dark City
31 - Death Race
32 - The Green Slime
33 - Event Horizon
34 - Jurassic Park The Lost World
35 - Equilibrium
36 - Soldier
37 - Star Trek Insurrection
38 - Serenity
39 - Star Wars
40 - Screamers
41 - The Running Man
42 - The Time Machine (remake)
43 - Conquest of the Planet of the Apes
44 - The Fly (1986)
45 - Demon Seed
46 - Logan's Run
47 - The Tournament
48 - Moon Zero Two
49 - The Fifth Element
50 - Body Snatchers
51 - Rise of the Planet of the Apes
52 - The Abyss
53 - The Terminator
54 - Devil Girl From Mars
55 - The Last Man on Earth
56 - Doctor Who and the Daleks
57 - Death Race 2
58 - Stargate
59 - Escape From the Bronx
60 - Terminator 3
61 - Black Scorpion
62 - Saturn 3
63 - District 9
64 - K-Pax
65 - Forbidden Planet
66 - Soylent Green
67 - At The Earth's Core
68 - Alien 3
69 - Westworld
70 - Jurassic Park III
71 - Dark Angel
72 - Robocop
73 - The Snow Devils
74 - Nemesis
75 - Wild Wild Planet
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A lot there I haven't seen.

The Black Hole still remains a er... black hole in my viewing.

I'm disappointed to see that Doctor Who: The Movie is absent from your list, Dem.
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A lot there I haven't seen.

The Black Hole still remains a er... black hole in my viewing.

I'm disappointed to see that Doctor Who: The Movie is absent from your list, Dem.
I've realized 13 films are absent from my sodding list.

What else haven't you see B_E?
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I've realized 13 films are absent from my sodding list.
One of them being Doctor Who: The Movie of course.

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What else haven't you see B_E?
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2 - The Black Hole
5 - Strange Days
7 - War of the Worlds (if it's the original)
15 - Warlords of Atlantis
18 - The Earth Dies Screaming
19 - Immortel
21 - Star Trek First Contact
27 - Space Truckers
36 - Soldier
37 - Star Trek Insurrection
40 - Screamers (unless this is Corman's take on Island of the Fishmen?)
42 - The Time Machine (remake)
47 - The Tournament
48 - Moon Zero Two
54 - Devil Girl From Mars
57 - Death Race 2
58 - Stargate
62 - Saturn 3
64 - K-Pax
67 - At The Earth's Core
70 - Jurassic Park III
71 - Dark Angel (the one time I attempted this, I couldn't make it all the way through)
73 - The Snow Devils
74 - Nemesis
75 - Wild Wild Planet
I've hi-lighted in red the ones that interest me the most.
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