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mercury 4th September 2011 03:59 PM

Fan Editions
 
What do the tiltles which are listed on the shameless collection page as: Fan Editions mean? Do they differ from the others, and if so in what way.

Thank:)

Stephen@Cult Labs 4th September 2011 04:08 PM

Tbh, I'm not sure what makes them different. Perhaps the inclusion of a fact track.


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Sarah@Cult Labs 5th September 2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mercury (Post 178820)
What do the tiltles which are listed on the shameless collection page as: Fan Editions mean? Do they differ from the others, and if so in what way.

Thank:)

It usually means they have special features such as a fact track, booklet, documentary/featurette, interviews etc. They differ from other Shameless titles in that they don't usually have features beyond the trailers.

In some cases, it also means that Shameless may have done a re-build edit by editing in lost footage or working with the original filmmakers to deliver their original vision.

mr 420 5th September 2011 11:51 AM

Sarah, is it not the case that you also get people like Marc Morris working on the reconstruction?

Slippery Jack 5th September 2011 12:52 PM

It is a bit of an odd moniker. It kind of suggests all of the non 'Fan Edition' titles were dispassionatley produced by folk with no interest in the film :lol: . . .

mercury 5th September 2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah@Cult Labs (Post 178902)
It usually means they have special features such as a fact track, booklet, documentary/featurette, interviews etc. They differ from other Shameless titles in that they don't usually have features beyond the trailers.

In some cases, it also means that Shameless may have done a re-build edit by editing in lost footage or working with the original filmmakers to deliver their original vision.

Thanks Sarah. I was looking through the list as I only have 4 shameless titles:fear: so with the new site looking good, it made me want to get some more.:nod:

Sarah@Cult Labs 5th September 2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mr 420 (Post 178975)
Sarah, is it not the case that you also get people like Marc Morris working on the reconstruction?

Usually, yes! :)

nekromantik 5th September 2011 01:39 PM

i dont own any of the fan editions!
To be honest I dont own many Shameless dvds :lol:
Most of mine are Arrow.

Prince_Vajda 5th September 2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nekromantik (Post 179019)
i dont own any of the fan editions!
To be honest I dont own many Shameless dvds :lol:
Most of mine are Arrow.

That isn't something to be proud of... :coolblue:

Greetings!

Demdike@Cult Labs 5th September 2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince_Vajda (Post 179041)
That isn't something to be proud of... :coolblue:

Greetings!

Gotta agree with Prince there.:nod:

Shameless put out far more collectable titles than Arrow.

nekromantik 5th September 2011 03:55 PM

Only issue with Shameless is that most I never seen so blind buys are out of the question.
Until I get a job where £6 - £9 loss wont bother me!

just ordered torso however!

mr 420 5th September 2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah@Cult Labs (Post 179005)
Usually, yes! :)

:cool: With that knowledge you know that he will construct the most complete version that you can possibly get. You can't ask for any more than that.

Splatterdragon73 7th September 2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah@Cult Labs (Post 178902)
It usually means they have special features such as a fact track, booklet, documentary/featurette, interviews etc. They differ from other Shameless titles in that they don't usually have features beyond the trailers.

For yours truly DTAD is the weakest Shameless FE so far. Now don't get me wrong, i'm perfectly happy to own this release and said DVD wins over the ABUS variant. I just think there was scope for more fan-friendly features that's all.

I'm well aware that fan input is evident on the Shameless Duckling in the form of the customary sterling efforts of the illustrious Stephen Thrower and Marc Morris. But beyond this there's nothing else to distinguish this edition from other standard Shameless titles imo.:)

Rik 7th September 2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 179045)
Gotta agree with Prince there.:nod:

Shameless put out far more collectable titles than Arrow.

I'm the same, I have more Arrow than Shameless, and I only got my first ones this week. For me I prefer the Arrow discs purely because of the package you get for your money, yes Shameless release the more obscure titles, but I want more than just a trailer if I'm going to spend around a tenner for a DVD, which is why I bought mine cheap from eBay


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nekromantik 7th September 2011 02:56 PM

to be honest most of the sellers selling Shameless titles on ebay charge more then HMV or Amazon. Only if your lucky and you win a auction type sell then you can grab a bargin.

Rik 7th September 2011 03:14 PM

That's exactly what I did, paid £3.20 for The Black Cat and £9 for NYR, Manhattan Baby & Bronx Warriors fan edition, the only one I've paid retail for is the Cannibal Holocaust DVD and BD


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Nosferatu@Cult Labs 7th September 2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Splatterdragon73 (Post 179478)
For yours truly DTAD is the weakest Shameless FE so far. Now don't get me wrong, i'm perfectly happy to own this release and said DVD wins over the ABUS variant. I just think there was scope for more fan-friendly features that's all.

I'm well aware that fan input is evident on the Shameless Duckling in the form of the customary sterling efforts of the illustrious Stephen Thrower and Marc Morris. But beyond this there's nothing else to distinguish this edition from other standard Shameless titles imo.:)

I was thinking just that as, for a Shameless Fan Edition, the disc only has the theatrical trailer and the Shameless Trailer Park and the only extra feature of note is the booklet. As there is no commentary, fact track, featurette and/or interview, it does seem a bit light on the ground in terms of bonus material.

platostotal 7th September 2011 05:03 PM

Arrow or Shameless? I get what you guys say, but if it's NYR for £6 or VAMP for £18.99, choice is clear. Extras are nice but even better if they didn't carry such a premium. Hope Shameless haven't gone over the top with the new £18 price point(Also agree that DTAD is a bit light for that price) as I understand it Arrow single discs will be £11.99-12.99 i.e. PIECES, and Shameless at £18. Think Arrow will take market share from Shameless if that's the case. FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET is a dead cert for me even at £18, but would like to see em cheaper. In the end I prefer Shameless over Arrow as their more Italian oriented, and being a cheapskate:lol: like the idea of picking up a £6 bargain.

Splatterdragon73 8th September 2011 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by platostotal (Post 179512)
Hope Shameless haven't gone over the top with the new £18 price point (Also agree that DTAD is a bit light for that price).

My Shameless Duckling was only a tenner from HMV online and said price is fine by me but i certainly wouldn't have paid £18 for this title seeing as it could've been better imo. If DTAD was further blessed with extras i may well have been prepared to spend more money on this release. Overall i'm satisfied with what i got for the cost.:)

Culture Vulture 17th September 2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rik (Post 179505)
the only one I've paid retail for is the Cannibal Holocaust DVD and BD

Why did you buy CH on DVD and BD, Rik?

Rik 17th September 2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Culture Vulture (Post 181990)
Why did you buy CH on DVD and BD, Rik?

Couldn't resist it, I originally only intended in buying the Blu, but I ended up ordering both, I doubt I'll even watch the DVD so it's purely for collections sake


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Nosferatu@Cult Labs 17th September 2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rik (Post 181993)
Couldn't resist it, I originally only intended in buying the Blu, but I ended up ordering both, I doubt I'll even watch the DVD so it's purely for collections sake

That's the same reason I have both on order and have bought the recent The New York Ripper DVD. The same goes for my Arrow Video collection as I have quite a few titles on both formats.

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th September 2011 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rik (Post 181993)
Couldn't resist it, I originally only intended in buying the Blu, but I ended up ordering both, I doubt I'll even watch the DVD so it's purely for collections sake


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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 182001)
That's the same reason I have both on order and have bought the recent The New York Ripper DVD. The same goes for my Arrow Video collection as I have quite a few titles on both formats.

:crazy:

Rik 17th September 2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 182002)
:crazy:

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested!


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nekromantik 17th September 2011 05:51 PM

I dont have the money to double dip on both Blu and DVD!!
I doubt I would even if I did :lol:

Each to their own :)

Pete 17th September 2011 05:53 PM

I used to double dip (I had 7 editions of CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST at one point) but I can't see the point anymore.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 17th September 2011 05:53 PM

When the collecting bug bites you, it doesn't let go and leads to strange purchases!

Pete 17th September 2011 05:54 PM

I squashed that bug, don't like killing anything but it had to be done!

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 17th September 2011 05:57 PM

I'm afraid mine has jaws like a pit bull and there's no way I can shake it off!

Rik 17th September 2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 182024)
I'm afraid mine has jaws like a pit bull and there's no way I can shake it off!

Me too, it also includes books, cd's, magazines etc. I call it collecting, my wife calls it hoarding!


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pedromonkey 17th September 2011 06:37 PM

i have 3 versions of Dawn of the Dead, The Arrow triple DVD and Blu and the ABUS ultimate edition, also two versions of Cannibal Holocaust and two versions of The Fly.

Beyond72 17th September 2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike (Post 182002)
:crazy:

I'm telling ya Shameless should nick my idea for different coloured sleeves, it would be pot luck which of the two covers you'd get when ordering on-line, so people might have to order 3 or 4 times to get the other colour or search multiply HMVs. :heh:

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th September 2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beyond72 (Post 182075)
I'm telling ya Shameless should nick my idea for different coloured sleeves, it would be pot luck which of the two covers you'd get when ordering on-line, so people might have to order 3 or 4 times to get the other colour or search multiply HMVs. :heh:

Just go...... Now!

DO NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS. :tsk:


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