Shameless sleaze
 

Sex sells. Doesn't it? Would Shameless be able to add to their coffers by starting a line of (ahem) skinflick-type titles? Anything British/American/European from the 60s/70s/80s that can't currently be found on these shores? Nothing hard obviously, but the BBFC are very much more relaxed in their attitude to sex nowadays (Don't Look Now is a 15?!).

I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen Anchor Bay tackle these kinds of movies, although with the exception of some Franco titles it wasn't really company policy. Would it be feasible to find some decent titles to release? They could be in blue boxes to distinguish them the regular titles! Just a thought, not sure of the economics or practicalities, but it's amazing how even the most boring film can be made endurable with a bit of eye candy.

I like the idea Gore and I have in my mind a sub-label we'd call 'Spanky!' and put out everything from Mary Millington flicks to other questionable offerings. Our problem is unlike AB we don't have monsterous corporations behind us to bankroll new ventures and also stores are now cutting back on their adult sections. Still everyone advised us not to try Shameless so we'd not let that put us off!

So let's gather some suggestions here and maybe we'll get to give it a go!

As a sleaze fan, I think it's a terrific idea Almar ;)

I'll have a think of some titles..

Please do - we can certainly kick off with some Italian fare with reasonable ease. I was looking at stuff like Craving Desire the other day and thinking in this day and age with all the super hard material you can see for free on the net would anyone want this kind of softcore anymore?

Glad to see Shameless are receptive this idea, You guys are so cool!

Mary Millington sounds good, as does anything with Edwige Fenech.

Passion Flower Hotel/Boarding School with Nastassja Kinski?

Years ago (I think we're talking about the late 80s) I went to Birmingham to catch a screening of The Blood Spattered Bride. There was a technical problem and they couldn't show it, so I wandered into the other screen and saw Sex Is Beautiful (La Revelation, 1973) instead, with Olga Georges-Picot. It's been many years, but I remember it fondly.

I sat through tons of this stuff at the local fleapit fom the early 80s onwards (a couple of times while playing hooky from school) and though most of the films were cut to ribbons according to the highly censorious standards of the BBFC at the time, I'd like to see some again, hopefully uncut.

I have no idea of print availability, or whether there is any market for this kind of movie now and wouldn't expect anything to be remastered, but if Shameless could squeeze some of it out onto DVD I, for one, would be eternally grateful.

Yeah!! Absolutely..!! The softcore stuff is gold - esp. the Italian flicks. Edwige Fenich movies are a great start. How about Rita Calderoni, or Rentao Polselli. Mary Millington sounds fine too. I have a thing for Laura Gemser, but the majority of her stuff is Emmanuelle - and done to death now. Or, how about Marco Bellocchio's Il Diavolo in corpo (Devil in the Flesh).. No Shame DVD is OOP now (although the sex is unsimulated, I think there are softer versions..)

You know, I would love to see Shameless release The Blood Spattered Bride (sorry, off topic - but gore mentioning it in passing reminds me what a great film it is).

I don't really like naked people in films so forgive me but i'll pass.

I love em, what the world needs is a 2.35:1 release of Charles Band's Fairy Tales.

I havent seen it but if theres naked people in it then I wouldn't like it very much.

Im not against other people watching naked people on film mind.

Oh there's loads of them, but there's also lots of singing, dance numbers and comedy too!

Cant say I care much for singing and dance numbers much either, especially with loads of naked people running about up to no good.

Haha 'spanky' :rofl: Now thats a great name for a dvd label :D

I do.. :D

..and so many great films have naked people in.. ;)

I saw the XXX Alice In Wonderland, recently.. That is quite interesting. Very good natured, and jolly..

Im sure it was.

Given a classy and kinky presentation which oozes with nostalgia...count me in.:o

Surely 'Shameless' as a name, would cover this genre as well? lol. Bring on the sleaze, I see Mr. Morris and Mr. West have started their own side-label of Nuclues that deals with this type of stuff :)

As for Devil in the Flesh - that's art-house gold! Something Articial Eye would release... and get it out uncut... because it's a political statement! :p

Yeah, probably too classy, to be sleazy..

I hate to be Johnny Buzzkill, but I'd be skeptical about how popular this might be. When I worked in a chain DVD store, the porn people used to buy was pretty much the same old same, Lindsay Dawn McKenzie type films. People don't tend to go looking for interesting films in the smut section, they look there because their evening plans involve spending some quality time alone.

For anything more niche than your standard big-boobs flick, I think you'd need to either market it as something that won't sit in an adult section or go the R18 route, which is already a crowded marketplace (I'm guessing. I mean, obviously I'm not spending hours every week trawling the smut shops of Soho. If I were to have, though, I'd probably still be amazed at the clown porn I saw the other week)

It'll need to be marketed carefully of course, but it depends of the angle. I'm not just thinking "soft smut" - but sleaze can mean anything from exploitation to giallo (already covered by shameless) - however, there are branches off that that could be explored - moving into the arthouse for instance (which is why I suggested Devil in The Flesh, or Italian sex-comedy, something not represented at all in the UK market - Edwige Fenich starring particularly, but also unrepresented Fulci titles!)

There just needs to be a specific angle - and not just soft smut for the sake of it. There will be a niche audience.

Severin have been doing well! But then again, they have the benefit of US law!

And my mind went straight to thinking it was pornography...I think I've revealed more about myself than I had intended to.

I wouldn't worry about that Matt - it's such a blurred line these days and what I dislike are all the young lads mags that get away with what is pornography but don't have to label it as such. An adult title says what it is - deal done.

There are certainly some soft porn titles we could consider for a sub-label but the point you raise is a very good one. There is almost nowhere to sell old and pretty innocent glamour films. For it to possibly work we'd have to go for some of the class acts and indeed keep it glamorous rather than nasty and smutty. Fun and playful would also be qualities we should perhaps try to seek. Hm - not looking easy!

And yes I have to say picking up on an earlier point the song and dance numbers in films like Come Play With Me are hellish to sit through.

How about some of the old 'Jezebel' type flicks? I wonder how 'Poor Cecily' and its Fire Rock dungeon scenes would fare in this day and age (previously cut by over 17m)? The sexy Collinson twins appeared in a few skin flicks such as 'Some like it Sexy' (you could chuck their amusing nudie short 'Halfway Inn' on as an extra). Also, the fairly entertaining 'The Erotic Dreams of Cleopatra' (previously passed uncut) and 'The Art of Love' (7s cut previously - not sure what, but I presume it would get by uncut now). Then there are the softcore 'Caligula' rips: 'Messalina, Messalina' (the US DVD is shocking), 'Caligula and Messalina' (the German DVD is ok, but can be easily improved upon) and 'Caligula's Slaves' (I'll add 'Hot Nights of Caligula' but you couldn't get away with the h/c inserts).

I can't somehow see the full uncut Sex Express (aka Diversions) seeing the light of day in the UK for quite a while yet. http://shameless-films.com/forums/im...ilies/ack2.gif

In the film Come Play with Me there are dance numbers in it but no naked people running about while they are singing though,a lot of the MM films are pretty bad if your looking for sex in them as most if not all do not have any:rofl:....just a suggestiveness about them to make them an ( 'X' before) and an 18 now,some of those would easily pass 15 now similar to the Carry on Emmanuelle film.

At last.! a film with no naked people in it.
Any film with full nudity in it should have an R18 slapped on it. That would make them keep there clothes on.

Hey how about Nudist Colony of the Dead???

That's a film I've wanted to see for years but which isn't available on DVD.

Dude, where did this hatred of the human form come from?!?! lol
Nakedness is a beautiful thing! :woot:

Bring on the T'n'A guys! We're in the naughties afterall! whoop.

Not if it's Ann Widdecombe. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/scare2.gif

Personaly I think Ann would look quite fetching in the nude.

That depends on what she is fetching.:rofl:

Woof Woof.

Good advert for recycling plastic:woot: carrier bags,for over her head with two eyeholes........

What about that bloke Boris Johnston to co star with Ann.?
Now that would sell.