Amerikan Holokaust (2013) - Sickest Film Ever??
 

Two weeks ago I got an email from the director telling me that they were now distributing Amerikan Holokaust. The Sickest Film Ever.:nod:
Hmm..... I thought that is a bold claim, my friend. I have seen A Serbian Film, Human Centipede 2, The Dead Man 2 - Return of The Dead Man, The August Underground Trilogy, The Vomit Gore Trilogy and some shit that doesn't even have titles, whattcha got, big boy, bring it on!! :woot::woot:

So it brung...or came yesterday! Immediately it draws comparison to AU. This is grainy, shakey, vhs quality "found footage" of two ex Vietnam vets that are seriously whacked out. They make Henry and Otis look like two kids from Happy Days. (Heyyyy!) :cool:
It had a budget of about $1000. but don't let that put you off. The leads aren't exactly De Nero and Pacino but let me tell you, they try hard!!
They have a woman captive that they abuse verbally and physically before killing her, rant a bit under an American flag hanging on the wall and then go out to grab a couple and their young baby who have a better video camera than the one they were using. They tie him up and abuse him and his wife fairs far worse humiliation, rape, pain and degradation before they tell her that her baby has been sold to a gay couple and then force her to eat from a dog bowl. Half way through the meal they tell her it's her baby, Matthew! She vomits but a funnel and some pushing gets the rest down her neck! Her whining gets on their nerves so she gets whacked over the head and put out of her misery.....:shocked:

They then pull her intestines out and one of the chaps starts masturbating with the loops.................Just as the missus walked in from dropping the boy off....:eek:

My wife and I have been together a loooooong time and she puts up with my hobby and rarely moans about anything. She can tell you a Fulci from an Argento and actually listens to some of the stuff I say......sometimes.
She was shocked. What the :censored: was I watching now? Is that stuff illegal? How quick can I get it out of the PS3? Seriously, is there something wrong with me? I'm sure you have a gist of how the rest of the conversation went.

So I have only seen 15 or so minutes until Saturday when I have the house for the whole night. I'm almost scared to put it back on......Watch this space!!

So I'm guessing the BBFC will pass this uncut then :lol:

AMERIKAN HOLOKAUST OFFICIAL TRAILER - YouTube

It's highly rated on IMDB - Amerikan Holokaust (2013) - IMDb

Doesn't sound like something I'd like but each to their own and all that.
The other films mentioned have never really interested me either. ;)

Me neither.

Still whatever turns you on etc.

totaly agree only one ive watched uncut is Human Centipede 2 i have no interest what so ever in the rest.
why do films have to try outdo each other in shock value ?
what happened to good old fashioned film making ?
And shock value in films like Tcm Exorcist, peeping tom etc, well they where in there time.

Film makers feel they need to go the extra step because people are not easy to shock these days. We are so used to seeing violence in real life its just the norm these days. Its a sad fact of life but we are just so desensitized that alot of people making horror have to go to the extremes to get a reaction. I have seen alot of these sort of films some good some bad. Ill take atmosphere and good acting over these sort of films any day.

These films are a reflection on the society will live in right or wrong i think we will see more and more of these sorts of film in the future.

I was sold at wanking with gizzards, who wouldn't want to see that! Where do we get it from Boo?

Cheers Rik.

Each to his own, indeed. I'm liberally minded and have watched my fair share of controversial cinema over the years but stuff like this exists purely for its shock value - I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Films like this and most of the other films mentioned in the opening post do absolutely nothing for me.

Same, I only searched for it because I was interested in who would stock such a film, I've absolutely no intention of watching it, but fair do's to anyone who does

I really do not have a problem with anything that is extreme
In nature so long as it has a point and some entertainment value. I've not seen this film so couldn't possibly make a call but my gut feeling, based on what was written here, is that there isn't a point and it isn't entertaining :D

I tend to view stuff like this as catching the arse end of a running joke between two friends...it's funny but you never get the full meaning of the joke or it's connection between the two people. I hope that makes sense.

That makes sense and I'm sure whatever insight those friends bring to a viewing would certainly elevate the experience but for me a film has to stand on its own and should resonate accordingly.

Very nicely put Paul. I totally agree but there is something about the sheer lack of anything other than shock that appeals to me about films like this. They are so bloody minded and singular in approach that the films are almost irrelevant to the needs and obsessions of the film makers and the desire to share them. I'm most likely reading too much into the sub genre but it does fascinate me as to why people want to shock and repulse.

Im the exact same as you MTDS. Even when it comes to certain shock videos on the net i always feel the need to look more into the clips and what was behind them and the people involved. Most people look at the clip talk about what they have seen but for me thats not enough i want to whole back stary and the mind set of both the person that films and the people involved be they victim or the person doing the act. Sometimes i regret it after my researh is done because most times what influences these things is way worse than what i have watched.

Are you talking about real things or films? I see enough crap in my average day at work to avoid reality when at home!

I wish it was only films :lol:

The thing is no matter how extreme and wrong a film is there is always soneone there to defend it. but one must start to Question these type of filns when even fans off extreme cinema are kinda turning there back on them and slowly getting fed up and complaining. But lets be honest how far is to far ? and there is a certain genere of films that one must Question of why anyone would want to watch such films. mpo there extreme and then just plain wrong.

Horror films used to have you identify with the victim, to feel the fear of being chased/stalked by a psycho, haunted by a ghost etc, etc - all from the safety of your cinema seat or home lounge. These 'extreme' films are different, they invite you to take part in the torture, killing, degradation. 'Torture Porn' is a very apt name for this stuff, even if it is over used.
People always say 'I have the right to watch anything I want', which is fine, but I find it disturbing that this type of film is being made, and that there's a hungry audience for it.

totaly agree youre last statement is kind of what im trying to say but worded different.

Is it any different to identifying with action heroes as they blast away faceless bad guys?

In a way as they are bad guys. :nod: Rather than the person you are supposed to be identifying with.

Perhaps if it were a woman torturing men that would be less controversial.

Not necessarily - it's probably more controversial. Just look at the troubled censorship history that Boy Meets Girl had to endure before we finally got to see it!

So Boo what happens in the rest of the film? I have no intention of ever buying or watching it but I'm interested in your sypnosis, I've tried to watch August Underground before many years ago but just couldn't bear it. To me it was pointless, no plot, no script and no justification for it even existing beyond possibily giving a few people with issues a thrill.
Have you dared put the disc back in the PS3?

Okay, I feel the need to let you all know how I feel about these sort of films as I started the thread and don't really want you all to think I'm some rabid masturbatory voyeur that gets my kicks from watching the worst films I can find....
But that is partly true!! ;)
I started collecting videos back in '86 and always had a love for horror. I was overwhelmingly drawn to the Video Nasties and their ilk. I wanted to see everything. Snuff became almost an obsession and a friend and I went on a 12 year hunt to find a true snuff movie. That's a whole 'nuther story, there! My attitude was one of a young headstrong boy in that, "How dare any one tell me what I can or can't watch." like most young guys. I would go to video shops and buy whatever I could but it was the film fairs, like at Watford in the early '90's where it all opened up for me.
Guys would come up to me and say, "Whoah!! Have you seen Nekromantik/ Beautiful Girl Hunter/ Bunman/ 10 Monologues (Add your own extreme '90's title here), it is the most evil/depraved/banned film EVER!" :eek:
For me it's almost like a challenge. Bells goes off in my head. The Most Evil Film Ever...it has to be mine! My stomach would flip over and a feeling of almost awe would sweep over me. Wow! The most evil film ever and I got a copy of it. :cool:
Sitting at home, with the curtains drawn, on it would go. Remember this was the same time that the Daily Mail and all were howling to ban the sadist videos. People were going to jail for owning a copy of Nightmares in a Damaged Brain, they would shit themselves blind if they saw this!!
It was a feeling of owning the forbidden. Collectors of many things know this drug. It is a wondrous feeling that I lack the vocabulary to describe adequately but if you've ever felt it, you'll never forget it. And it's addictive!
But then you get older and wiser and your tastes mellow somewhat. But every now and then something will pop up, like this, and my pulse races again.

All the films I mentioned at the beginning I own (Plus many more!) but all of them I have only watched once each. They are not something I generally go back to for another innings. They are such vile, disgusting, over the top pieces of filth that even I sit there and think how the :censored: did anyone want to make this in the first place. But I MUST OWN IT!! :loco:

The only film I've watched that actually disturbed me for a few days after viewing it was A Serbian Film. I have shit far worse than that but perhaps because I have a young son or maybe I'm just getting sensitive in my old age, but it is another one I have never gone back to.
So, in conclusion, I guess I'm trying to say is, "Yeah, I'm sick but I'm not too bad.....really!":)

Saturday night the house is mine!! Sunday I'll let you know!!:nod:

Well you said it Boo. :D

I like that! You know me too well...:pound::lol:

One is asking you to fantasize about being 'the hero', and triumph over 'the bad guys'.
The other is asking you to fantasize about raping/torturing/murdering a defenceless person - usually a hot girl. So yes, different to me - not that I'm an action fan.
Just my opinion, and I can see that I'm in the minority, which is cool.

Ah-ha! So.... Big Bad Boo watched the rest...and I have to say that in an odd way I enjoyed it!! (Where's Dem...??):rolleyes:

Right on with the synopsis for those of you who'll never buy it but wants to know how it evolves. We got up to the gizzard wanking as I recall. Did I mention they also slipped a grenade into the poor girl to test her pubic floor muscles? Anyway.... After this we get a bit of back story in a rant of how these two charming gents, Michael Washburn and Antwan Mercer, met up in Vietnam. These rants appear periodically and we find out that Mike and Twan were separated from their unit in 'Nam. Lost in the jungle they would capture women and torture and rape them. After a while they realized they weren't lost at all......they just enjoyed what they're doing.:nod:

Back in the world, man, they couldn't adjust, no jobs,man, people spitting at them, calling them murderers...(Well..yes! Duhh!) Twan, the older bloke who looks like the Uncle from Only Fools and Horses, ended up in jail for a while and Mike hooked up with Rose and married her. We meet Rose who seems okay, moaning that Mike should get off his ass and get a job. Mike has her around his little finger though and soon she is fantasizing about a young female student she see's at work. Twan and Mike kidnap her and start the rape and abuse immediately.

Rose walks in and demands to know what is going on. She comforts the girl before repeatedly stabbing her in the face until it is a mess of gore. Rose knows how to party too! She chides them both like little kids for getting someone close to them. Careless fools! :doh:

It cuts from one scene to the next suddenly, there is very little continuity, like the home movies of serial killers......I guess...? We're treated to lots of abusive language and most of the violence is done off screen or obscured by a scratchy bit of tape. Some, like the wanking in entrails, is graphically explicit and leaves nothing to the imagination and because you see so much of that you believe you actually see more than the film shows you later on. In that respect I thought it was very clever, rather than going the really fake fx route and reducing the impact. Bob Glazer, the chap who plays Twan, is fearless and the better of the two main roles but Jules Sceiro who plays Mike grows on you as he gets more comfortable in the role.

So the intrepid duo go back out and pick up a prozzie for 4 hours. After servicing them, yep, you guessed it, bonk on the head, vile abuse to ensue including making her drink a laxative then making her drink what comes out! Are you still reading this, you sick puppy, you! So they abuse her till Twan thinks she might be dead. He likes that. No resistance. On his own he starts to face rape her but...(You knew this, didn't you?) she bites off his manhood and ties and gags him to a chair. Oh yeah, you my bitch now, mother lover!! I defy you not to wince when she stiletto's his ball sack!:eek:

Mike comes home to see Twan in the chair and gets a bonk on the head too. I think she hated Mike a bit more as he gets anal raped with the shotgun (Double barrelled, mind you, plus the sight!!) before she pulls the trigger. Blamo!
At the beginning of the film we are met with, "This documentary you are about to see is the video diary of two of the most notorious serial killers in the annuls of American history, blah, de blah, blah. The end also has a blurb but I won't spoil it for you, all I say is I can smell a sequel.....:happy:

Enjoyed it? Dunno. Liked it? Think so. It's so much better than I thought it would be so in that respect I applaud it. It's no August Underground and that's a good thing. It's it's own beast and works on many different levels. It is vile, make no mistake, you're not going to settle down with the missus to watch it, that's for sure. I gotta say kudoo's to them, they made a raw, uncompromising, in your face film for a budget of $1000.00 and got all those girls to allow them to abuse them on film! I take my hat off!

Earlier, someone said that they couldn't understand why these type of films were made and that there was an audience hungrily waiting for it. I have a theory that's as good as any. Fred Vogal once said that August Underground was a rebuttal to all the generic Hollywood sequels and safe pg horror films. They were fed up of not being scared by the shite the main studios were putting out. I think we are there again with all the placid, instantly forgettable re-makes and safe horror films that we are bombarded with. Dunno about you but when I want to watch a horror film I want to be scared, disturbed, want to sleep with the light on, not bored to tears by some door opening half an inch an hour on cctv footage. Woooo! Scarey! Not!
Therefore if you are one of those people who is fed up but actually decides that they're going to do something about it, rather than just moan and bitch about how bad it is, then you have to do something that makes your product stand out from the rest. So you go with the most extreme violence you can. remember back in the day, LHOTL was vilified as the most brutal, violent film ever made. Didn't do Wes too much harm, did it?
Then when people have the product and watch it and perhaps see a mediocum of talent, they get recognition and are able to carry on.
The audience are hungry for it because they too are fed up of watching the same old shite regurgitated by the studios, they want to be scared by a film too.

It's different strokes for different folks and you either like this sort of stuff in the first place, or you don't. This film definitely won't make you change your mind over that. If, however you do like this stuff.....Recommended!!:pop2:

I'm going to have fun with the above post tomorrow. :nod: ;)

Pervert.:tongue1:

He sure will seem that way. :lol:

Nicely side stepped, Dem.

@Boo, is there a commentary track or making of on the DVD? I'm intrigued to find out what, er, motivates a person to have sex with intestines before and during the performance. I'm sure Lee Strasberg would be proud!

No unfortunately, there is a couple of deleted/extended scenes that add/takeaway nothing, and a trailer.

You know I had a feeling when I watched it that it wasn't scripted and the guy started to do it off his own bat. Dunno why I got that feeling and I'm most likely totally wrong!

That Dem hates me!!:laugh:

From past experience with Dem, this is how he shows affection...or he is grooming you!!

That made me laugh. :)

When people start aspiring to "be" Fred Vogel, then that's me out.

But then I did try and pleasure myself during Srpski........


























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