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dis 6th October 2010 05:51 PM

The Thing (2011) Prequel
 
hi all,anybody know about said film?
just saw some shots/info about it on " aint it cool " site,and looks like its happening?:confused:

Stephen@Cult Labs 6th October 2010 06:34 PM

Filming has already finished. The worst thing about the film is even though it's a prequel, they're calling it The Thing. One of the most idiotic things I've ever heard.

Mahoney32 6th October 2010 07:29 PM

I will watch this as a fan, but I'm not expecting much. Is it due out soon?

Curious Goods 6th October 2010 09:17 PM

I'm surprised they are even making the movie. Although the original has become a cult movie, it tanked at the box office. And studio's usually only look at the numbers. Weird.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this. Just like the Ridley Scott Alien prequels (but on a low budget scale) this has appeal to Carpenter & horror fans. And thank god it's not a remake of the original. I say bring it on! :rockon:

Mahoney32 6th October 2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Curious Goods (Post 106959)
I'm surprised they are even making the movie. Although the original has become a cult movie, it tanked at the box office. And studio's usually only look at the numbers. Weird.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this. Just like the Ridley Scott Alien prequels (but on a low budget scale) this has appeal to Carpenter & horror fans. And thank god it's not a remake of the original. I say bring it on! :rockon:

Yeah, NO REMAKE PLEASE! But I think that a remake has been considered along the way though. Rumours of a sequel too. Organism reaches civilisation sort of scenario. Could happen at some point. Another Apocalypse movie.

wayfarer 8th October 2010 12:25 PM

I'm a big fan of JC's movie. I was not impressed when I heard a prequel was being filmed but remain open-minded as normal. They've attempted to film most of the creature effects using physical effects which is good and a minimal use of CGI. That's the good news. The bad news is that however good the feature is, we know the ending. It's like someone filming a series of movies explaining how Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader...MUST NOT MENTION THE PREQUELS.

So the last shot should be of the dog escaping with the helicopter chasing it. It's all a bit "so what". But then many franchises recycle the same old shit over and over again and people flock to those.

Mahoney32 8th October 2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 107215)
I'm a big fan of JC's movie. I was not impressed when I heard a prequel was being filmed but remain open-minded as normal. They've attempted to film most of the creature effects using physical effects which is good and a minimal use of CGI. That's the good news. The bad news is that however good the feature is, we know the ending. It's like someone filming a series of movies explaining how Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader...MUST NOT MENTION THE PREQUELS.

So the last shot should be of the dog escaping with the helicopter chasing it. It's all a bit "so what". But then many franchises recycle the same old shit over and over again and people flock to those.

They have a nasty habit of overusing CGI in films these days don't they? Even for basics, such as blood splatter. CGI blood? I'm glad the majority of the FX in this will be Physical, as you say. But yeah, we all know how it ends for them in this movie, so there is little to be excited about, to be honest. But I will watch this when it's released, being a big fan of the original. The Phantom Menace was naff in retrospect, The three-way duel was cool, but even that was ruined by inter-cutting it with a crap Anakin sequence. I liked the music track that accompanied the duel also: Duel Of The Fates, By John Williams. But that was about it...

Sarah@Cult Labs 10th October 2010 02:12 PM

Not sure if it's still the case but I had heard there was some seriously dodgy ret-conning going on with the plot of this film. That one of the characters was meant to be MacReady's brother? But, of course, you'd think that MacReady would have mentioned his brother was stationed at that facility...

They might have changed this point since but if they go ahead with it then it's just ridiculous!

Mahoney32 10th October 2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah@Cult Labs (Post 107465)
Not sure if it's still the case but I had heard there was some seriously dodgy ret-conning going on with the plot of this film. That one of the characters was meant to be MacReady's brother? But, of course, you'd think that MacReady would have mentioned his brother was stationed at that facility...

They might have changed this point since but if they go ahead with it then it's just ridiculous!

Sounds like some sort of joke. If this is the case, then I won't be bothering to watch this film. Jessica Biel is in this apparently, as the Hero's squeeze. Everytime I read something new on the film, I want to watch it less and less. I'm guessing Keith David's Uncle is staying at the Norway camp too? No wonder they all died, they must of had it coming...

dis 10th October 2010 04:06 PM

it may be a prequel,but how long before a sequel?you know it will happen,most likely in 3d!!!
evil dead in 3d,that would be good!?

Mahoney32 10th October 2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dis (Post 107483)
it may be a prequel,but how long before a sequel?you know it will happen,most likely in 3d!!!
evil dead in 3d,that would be good!?

Evil Dead 3D. Now that's at least one film that I could tolerate watching in 3D. I'm sick of the sight of 3D already, James Cameron and his blue alien pals are to blame for this. This whole "Thing" prequel is starting to stink too, if you ask me. I'm actually more interested in the idea of a sequel to the classic original, more than this prequel. We could of just pretended that the original black and white "Thing" was a prequel anyway. It covers everything that went on previously, concerning digging the crap up, really well. Just pretend they were from Norway. Problem solved. I would like to see the organism reach civilisation, now that could make for an exciting movie! Then they could maybe bring Mcready back, in a slightly more credible way. Not much more credibly though. Who was infected? Kurt Russell or Keith David? Who got rescued? Or did they both freeze to death. If one of the bodies was infected, then they're bodies would be shipped back to where they live, triggering the horror all over again. In the City. I would enjoy this film, if they made it. The Thing Returns...

kingofwitches666 10th October 2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahoney32 (Post 107497)
This whole "Thing" prequel is starting to stink too, if you ask me. I'm actually more interested in the idea of a sequel to the classic original

A sequel of sorts has already been covered in the Computer Artworks game of The Thing, which was released in 2002 on Xbox, PC & PS2.

Plot

During the player's investigation of the ruins of the Outpost, they will find the UFO from the film. They will also find the body of ? (NO SPOILERS HERE), one of the survivors from the movie. Upon securing the facility, Blake is airlifted to the Norwegian research station to locate and reinforce Alpha Team after Colonel Whitely informs him that they have lost contact with the team. There Blake and his group encounter swarms of Things that slowly dwindle down his team as Blake rescues Colin and learns of a government conspiracy with Gen Inc in conducting experiments on the alien lifeforms before they began to infest the research facility......

I'll leave the plot there, don't want to spoil it in case anyone wants to play it. It's a pretty good game for the time, I like the use of a 'Fear System' to ramp up the tension. Oh & the Xbox version does work on 360's. :thumb:

Mahoney32 11th October 2010 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kingofwitches666 (Post 107532)
A sequel of sorts has already been covered in the Computer Artworks game of The Thing, which was released in 2002 on Xbox, PC & PS2.

Plot

During the player's investigation of the ruins of the Outpost, they will find the UFO from the film. They will also find the body of ? (NO SPOILERS HERE), one of the survivors from the movie. Upon securing the facility, Blake is airlifted to the Norwegian research station to locate and reinforce Alpha Team after Colonel Whitely informs him that they have lost contact with the team. There Blake and his group encounter swarms of Things that slowly dwindle down his team as Blake rescues Colin and learns of a government conspiracy with Gen Inc in conducting experiments on the alien lifeforms before they began to infest the research facility......

I'll leave the plot there, don't want to spoil it in case anyone wants to play it. It's a pretty good game for the time, I like the use of a 'Fear System' to ramp up the tension. Oh & the Xbox version does work on 360's. :thumb:

I've got a copy of this game on the original xbox, but I've never played it because the controller is worn out. Need to find a new pre-owned controller. Will play through it then sometime. I just hope this new film doesn't suck ass. lol

dis 12th October 2010 06:03 PM

got this on ps2,but found it hard!is it worth playing?

Mahoney32 12th October 2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dis (Post 107738)
got this on ps2,but found it hard!is it worth playing?

Hi, I've got a copy of it, but haven't played it yet mate. Kingofwitches has though, by the sound of it, so I'm sure he will post in and tell you a bit more about the game soon. My old Xbox controller is f**ked, so when I find a replacement, I will play through it and post about it sometime.

wayfarer 14th October 2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahoney32 (Post 107497)
Evil Dead 3D. Now that's at least one film that I could tolerate watching in 3D. I'm sick of the sight of 3D already, James Cameron and his blue alien pals are to blame for this. This whole "Thing" prequel is starting to stink too, if you ask me. I'm actually more interested in the idea of a sequel to the classic original, more than this prequel. We could of just pretended that the original black and white "Thing" was a prequel anyway. It covers everything that went on previously, concerning digging the crap up, really well. Just pretend they were from Norway. Problem solved. I would like to see the organism reach civilisation, now that could make for an exciting movie! Then they could maybe bring Mcready back, in a slightly more credible way. Not much more credibly though. Who was infected? Kurt Russell or Keith David? Who got rescued? Or did they both freeze to death. If one of the bodies was infected, then they're bodies would be shipped back to where they live, triggering the horror all over again. In the City. I would enjoy this film, if they made it. The Thing Returns...

I agree with you on Evil Dead 3D. That would actually be cool but only if they made it nasty. Remember the Stephen King quote on the original's poster? It'd have to deliver. No PG-13, watered down, joke filled copy with a rubbish Ash. I'd like it to follow a similar route that the Dark Horse comic book version did, complete with the explanation as to why it was only Ash and girlfriend in ED2. Otherwise, it should be made to be scary and gruesome for 2010+ audiences. Not an easy task.

"The Thing Returns" - not sure I've ever liked the concept of the Thing running loose in a city. It would then be a messier version of The Body Snatchers. Trouble is that's been done to death. I'd prefer a "The Crazies" style of movie where the creature was found in a remote township and the threat was that it could escape to a major city and effectively begin to colonise the Earth. Then, as the threat appears to be over, his comrades finally arrive to see what it's been up to....

Mahoney32 14th October 2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 107992)
I agree with you on Evil Dead 3D. That would actually be cool but only if they made it nasty. Remember the Stephen King quote on the original's poster? It'd have to deliver. No PG-13, watered down, joke filled copy with a rubbish Ash. I'd like it to follow a similar route that the Dark Horse comic book version did, complete with the explanation as to why it was only Ash and girlfriend in ED2. Otherwise, it should be made to be scary and gruesome for 2010+ audiences. Not an easy task.

"The Thing Returns" - not sure I've ever liked the concept of the Thing running loose in a city. It would then be a messier version of The Body Snatchers. Trouble is that's been done to death. I'd prefer a "The Crazies" style of movie where the creature was found in a remote township and the threat was that it could escape to a major city and effectively begin to colonise the Earth. Then, as the threat appears to be over, his comrades finally arrive to see what it's been up to....

Sure, Evil Dead 3D would have to be full-on extreme, if there was ever to be one in 3D, I agree with you totally. I would like to see chunks of flesh, Axes, and blood shooting out of the screen at me. The crazier the better...

I alway's assumed that Evil Dead 2 was a remake anyway, but with a much bigger budget? It felt the same with Escape From LA too.

I like your idea for a "Thing" sequel too, I would watch that. The budget would be through the roof if they made The Thing, and it was set in New York or whatever. The threat of the creature possibly reaching a major city, from a remote town somewhere sounds good to me. Either way, I would defiantly enjoy watching both of those versions of a sequel to The Thing. I must admit, that I'm not too excited by this Prequel coming out. Hopefully we'll all be pleasantly surprised. I don't think I'd like too naff films, the two being The Thing, and John Carpenters The Ward...

kingofwitches666 15th October 2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahoney32 (Post 107740)
Hi, I've got a copy of it, but haven't played it yet mate. Kingofwitches has though, by the sound of it, so I'm sure he will post in and tell you a bit more about the game soon.

Indeed I have but it's been a while. I've got a feeling my views on it maybe a bit 'rose-tinted' like so many things when your younger. I do remember it did have some neat concept though, like it having 'squad based' controls. Each member in your squad had certain abilities (engineering, medical, etc). You of course have to utilises there abilties in order to advance through the levels (engineer needs to restore power in order to unlock doors & such like).

Any survivors you come across can join you but you have to arm them, give out ammo so there is a 'management' system that has to be implemented too. Going outside is also fraught, as there is an 'exposure' meter so theres always a sense of urgency when following the rope lights to get to the next out building before the meter runs out & you & your squad freeze to death! :smow:

The other neat thing in the game is the fear system & the trust system. This is implemented by making it possible for one of the player's squad members to be 'turned', and for the player not realize to until it was too late.

In the trust system, the player may lose the trust of his squad if he kills a squad member on the belief that that squad member had been 'turned'. The squad would react to the killing depending on if the slain squad member was or wasn't 'turned'. If the squad member had been 'turned', the squad will praise you for killing him. However, if the squad member was still human, the squad will lose faith in you and may even try to kill you.

In the fear system, the squad reacts to the environment of an area. An area that is covered in blood, or an area where there is a lot of wreckage present, might inspire fear in the squad. Also, the number of 'things' present or the sizes of the 'things' may frighten the squad members. The individual members of the squad may react in one of three ways:
The squad member runs away.
The squad member becomes irrational and begins shooting (with both regular guns and flamethrowers) indiscriminately. As this places the player and the squad in significant danger, the player often has to kill this squad member. If the player kills this squad member, the squad will neither gain nor lose trust in the player.
The squad member will simply give up and commit suicide.

There are several different ways that you can kill a 'thing'. A small 'thing' can be shot, while a larger 'thing' will have to be shot till it's nearly dead & then torched with a flamethrower. Methods of killing boss 'things' varies.

Think I might dig out my copy & have a go for old times sake. Who knows it might be a nice alternative if the film prequel is truly terrible! :laugh:

Stephen@Cult Labs 15th October 2010 11:13 AM

I don't have high hopes for the film, especially with the need to have a few American actors in it. I would have liked to have seen all Norwegian actors and the film in Norwegian and subtitled in English. Sure, it wouldn't have been for everyone but it would have made it more interesting.

Mahoney32 15th October 2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs (Post 108227)
I don't have high hopes for the film, especially with the need to have a few American actors in it. I would have liked to have seen all Norwegian actors and the film in Norwegian and subtitled in English. Sure, it wouldn't have been for everyone but it would have made it more interesting.

I think I agree with you there. Interesting. Maybe you should have written and directed this film. I would watch this version of the film any day.

most films starring Jessica Biel are normally a bit naff anyway. Watchable, but naff, if you understand what I'm getting at?

Mahoney32 15th October 2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kingofwitches666 (Post 108158)
Indeed I have but it's been a while. I've got a feeling my views on it maybe a bit 'rose-tinted' like so many things when your younger. I do remember it did have some neat concept though, like it having 'squad based' controls. Each member in your squad had certain abilities (engineering, medical, etc). You of course have to utilises there abilties in order to advance through the levels (engineer needs to restore power in order to unlock doors & such like).

Any survivors you come across can join you but you have to arm them, give out ammo so there is a 'management' system that has to be implemented too. Going outside is also fraught, as there is an 'exposure' meter so theres always a sense of urgency when following the rope lights to get to the next out building before the meter runs out & you & your squad freeze to death! :smow:

The other neat thing in the game is the fear system & the trust system. This is implemented by making it possible for one of the player's squad members to be 'turned', and for the player not realize to until it was too late.

In the trust system, the player may lose the trust of his squad if he kills a squad member on the belief that that squad member had been 'turned'. The squad would react to the killing depending on if the slain squad member was or wasn't 'turned'. If the squad member had been 'turned', the squad will praise you for killing him. However, if the squad member was still human, the squad will lose faith in you and may even try to kill you.

In the fear system, the squad reacts to the environment of an area. An area that is covered in blood, or an area where there is a lot of wreckage present, might inspire fear in the squad. Also, the number of 'things' present or the sizes of the 'things' may frighten the squad members. The individual members of the squad may react in one of three ways:
The squad member runs away.
The squad member becomes irrational and begins shooting (with both regular guns and flamethrowers) indiscriminately. As this places the player and the squad in significant danger, the player often has to kill this squad member. If the player kills this squad member, the squad will neither gain nor lose trust in the player.
The squad member will simply give up and commit suicide.

There are several different ways that you can kill a 'thing'. A small 'thing' can be shot, while a larger 'thing' will have to be shot till it's nearly dead & then torched with a flamethrower. Methods of killing boss 'things' varies.

Think I might dig out my copy & have a go for old times sake. Who knows it might be a nice alternative if the film prequel is truly terrible! :laugh:

Hi, Thanks for the reply, and thanks for the nice write-up on The Thing video game.
I've read this a couple of times now, and I might actually start playing this game one of these days. This post of yours has got me interested in it. Konami were one of the kings of the video game world, back in the day. They put out some great games. I really liked "Turtles in time" on the SNES. This was some years back now. And the years have gone by quick. To f***ing quick.....

wayfarer 16th October 2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahoney32 (Post 108149)
Sure, Evil Dead 3D would have to be full-on extreme, if there was ever to be one in 3D, I agree with you totally. I would like to see chunks of flesh, Axes, and blood shooting out of the screen at me. The crazier the better...

I alway's assumed that Evil Dead 2 was a remake anyway, but with a much bigger budget? It felt the same with Escape From LA too.

I like your idea for a "Thing" sequel too, I would watch that. The budget would be through the roof if they made The Thing, and it was set in New York or whatever. The threat of the creature possibly reaching a major city, from a remote town somewhere sounds good to me. Either way, I would defiantly enjoy watching both of those versions of a sequel to The Thing. I must admit, that I'm not too excited by this Prequel coming out. Hopefully we'll all be pleasantly surprised. I don't think I'd like too naff films, the two being The Thing, and John Carpenters The Ward...

The rights to The Evil Dead were tied up when Raimi made ED2 so they had to refilm events from the first to continue the story. The TED comic book adaptation had Ash waking up to find he was at the cabin with Linda and the events of TED had been a dream. Think, the ending of the movie Nightmare City and that's the vibe.

Mahoney32 17th October 2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 108548)
The rights to The Evil Dead were tied up when Raimi made ED2 so they had to refilm events from the first to continue the story. The TED comic book adaptation had Ash waking up to find he was at the cabin with Linda and the events of TED had been a dream. Think, the ending of the movie Nightmare City and that's the vibe.

Hi, Thanks for clearing that one up. I'm sure there will be another Evil Dead film one day.

dustdevil 20th October 2010 06:21 PM

A sequel was also covered in comic form - though for the life of me I can't remember what happened in it.

As for 3D I couldn't care less if it is or not,to me it's just another fad like all the other times - end result being bad films get the 3D treatment to get you to see it.

I like the idea of the prequel especially if it ends with the dog being chased by the helicopter as suggested earlier - then they could drag Kurt Russell back to do the sequel :happy:

The suggestion that The Thing was a box office flop is not really correct with an estimated budget of $15 million it made $19.6 million in USA (imdb) so it at least broke even.

Susan Foreman 6th September 2023 11:31 AM

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From the trivia page on IMDB:

"(at around 11 mins) When the team first enters the cave to look at the ship, there is a snow / ice formation which looks remarkably like the head of the xenomorph from the alien series. Whether it is on purpose or a happy accident is unknown, however coincidentally the effects team on this film, Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff Jr. had been working on the Alien franchise since 'Alien 3' (1992) until 'Aliens vs. Predator 2: Requiem' (2007)"



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