Mr. Dike. You raise a lot of points, and I will now try to answer them as best I can. Some of the things you say, I will have to raise my hands and agree with, while others, I think you are wrong
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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs Wondered if you might wish to change your list as the category is horror sequels |
OK - I missed this. I thought it was film sequels. The fact that this weeks topic had gone slightly off target by having lists of the worst sequels instead of the best ones didn't really help, but I hold my hands up to my mistake
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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs ...and Die Hard, Aliens and Batman Returns don't really fit |
'Die Hard' - fair enough, but I think you are wrong in suggesting that 'Batman Returns' and 'Aliens' are not horror films
Just look at the themes in the 'Batman' film. We have various kinds of madness - schizophrenia (Bruce Wayne/Batman, Selina Kyle/Catwoman); meglomania (Max Schrek); deformity (the Penguin); attempted rape (Selina protects a youg woman who is being attacked); death (Selina again, although she is 'resurrected' as Catwoman). The Penguin was abandoned at Christmas by his parents, and his adult scheme is to kidnap and kill every first born in Gotham City and ends up planning on destroying the neighbourhood with rocket-carrying penguins! Max Schrek is a corrupt businessman who want to build a power plant, which is actually a capacitor. He also kills Selina by throwing her out of a window. Selina herself is a bad-ass fetish queen (not that this is a bad thing!)
'Batman Returns may not be a 'traditional' horror film, but I think it is a horror film nevertheless
'Aliens' is, without doubt, a monster movie. A monster movie with science fiction trappings maybe, but a monster movie all the same
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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs Also can you explain how Zombie Flesh Eaters is the follow up to Dawn of the Dead? A film which clearly has a sequel in Day of the Dead. Don't mistake sequels for rip offs which is something the Italians often do.
Besides the story doesn't even make sense as a sequel to Dawn of the Dead in which the zombies are everywhere come the end of the film. In ZFE, New York and the rest of the US are clear of zombies until the boat moors in the harbour from the island of Matoul. Even the final scenes only show zombies on the footbridge...unless they also drive cars |
Hands up time again! Put this one down to a moment of madness on my part!