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hivemind 14th February 2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction (Post 620553)
No Time To Die's opening track. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz. So boring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oAAlssVwEw

Heard this song on BBC Radio Five Live last night.

If you were a manic depressive, and you heard that song, I'm pretty certain it would probably tip you over the edge. Absolutely awful, and I had to play it three times on You Tube, just so I could understand what the hell she was singing about. Says a lot about the music industry in general. The last decent Bond theme was Casino Royale in 2005. You Know My Name was punchy and terrific.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 14th February 2020 11:03 AM

Alexis Petridis in The Guardian liked it, giving it 4/5.

"Like her cover of Yesterday at the Oscars ceremony, No Time to Die sees Eilish taking a respectful approach. There’s a sense that this may all be part of a concerted effort to broaden her appeal to more mature audiences. It’s a moot point whether such an effort is really necessary – her multi-platinum debut album, When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? won praise from quarters that don’t ordinarily take much interest in music that appeals to teenage girls – but either way, the glitchy electronics of that record have vanished here, replaced by tasteful orchestration and nods to Bond tunes past.

There’s a vague hint of the opening of Diamonds Are Forever about the intro, an interpolation from Monty Norman’s James Bond theme and a guitar part that carries a distinct echo of Vic Flick’s iconic twang. Yet Eilish has stamped her own identity on the song. The tendency for vocalists tackling a Bond theme is to belt it out, as if in homage to the most famous Bond singer of the lot: Shirley Bassey is known for many things, but subtle understatement isn’t among them. Eilish, however, opts for her standard close-mic approach in which surliness does battle with vulnerability.

It fits what she’s singing. The days when the lyrics of Bond themes invariably came laden with woeful double-entendres pertaining to the hero’s sexual prowess are long gone. (It reached a deranged pinnacle on 1974’s The Man With the Golden Gun, which required Lulu to note “he has a powerful weapon” before wondering, “Who will he bang?”) More recently, the lyrics of Bond themes have occasionally tended to the baffling – the question of what on earth Adele is rattling on about hangs heavy over the otherwise great Skyfall.

No Time to Die, however, smartly refracts the Daniel Craig depiction of Bond – dark, solitary and tormented beneath the cool exterior – through Eilish’s signature brand of teen angst: “I should have known I’d leave alone – it just goes to show that the blood you bleed is just the blood you own.” What 007 himself would make of it is an intriguing question, but No Time to Die is a confident, appealing addition to the Bond theme canon.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...iew-bond-theme

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 14th February 2020 11:24 AM

I've listened to it three times and it has grown on me each time. I really like the lyrics, the way it builds with the strings before fading to the 'Bond twang' at the end, and how the fairly sombre tone fits the Bond we are shown in the trailers.

hivemind 14th February 2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 620565)
Alexis Petridis in The Guardian liked it, giving it 4/5.

"Like her cover of Yesterday at the Oscars ceremony, No Time to Die sees Eilish taking a respectful approach. There’s a sense that this may all be part of a concerted effort to broaden her appeal to more mature audiences. It’s a moot point whether such an effort is really necessary – her multi-platinum debut album, When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? won praise from quarters that don’t ordinarily take much interest in music that appeals to teenage girls – but either way, the glitchy electronics of that record have vanished here, replaced by tasteful orchestration and nods to Bond tunes past.

There’s a vague hint of the opening of Diamonds Are Forever about the intro, an interpolation from Monty Norman’s James Bond theme and a guitar part that carries a distinct echo of Vic Flick’s iconic twang. Yet Eilish has stamped her own identity on the song. The tendency for vocalists tackling a Bond theme is to belt it out, as if in homage to the most famous Bond singer of the lot: Shirley Bassey is known for many things, but subtle understatement isn’t among them. Eilish, however, opts for her standard close-mic approach in which surliness does battle with vulnerability.

It fits what she’s singing. The days when the lyrics of Bond themes invariably came laden with woeful double-entendres pertaining to the hero’s sexual prowess are long gone. (It reached a deranged pinnacle on 1974’s The Man With the Golden Gun, which required Lulu to note “he has a powerful weapon” before wondering, “Who will he bang?”) More recently, the lyrics of Bond themes have occasionally tended to the baffling – the question of what on earth Adele is rattling on about hangs heavy over the otherwise great Skyfall.

No Time to Die, however, smartly refracts the Daniel Craig depiction of Bond – dark, solitary and tormented beneath the cool exterior – through Eilish’s signature brand of teen angst: “I should have known I’d leave alone – it just goes to show that the blood you bleed is just the blood you own.” What 007 himself would make of it is an intriguing question, but No Time to Die is a confident, appealing addition to the Bond theme canon.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...iew-bond-theme

I bet he did. The Guardian has always been at the forefront of the idelogical notion of the feminist movement, and pushing/promoting social change messages. The character of James Bond has been castrated by the femininst's who seem to prefer a more Alpha B to the standard Alpha A male Bond. I think this just says it all in the article

"It fits what she’s singing. The days when the lyrics of Bond themes invariably came laden with woeful double-entendres pertaining to the hero’s sexual prowess are long gone. (It reached a deranged pinnacle on 1974’s The Man With the Golden Gun, which required Lulu to note “he has a powerful weapon” before wondering, “Who will he bang?”)"

Yes. No more testosterone filled James Bond, but a more feminist approach to the Bond character. We can't have Bond behaving like an Alpha male can we. Hetrosexuality is obviously on the way out, to fit the new agenda of the castrated male or should I say gender neutrality. The Bond producers seem quite a happy let James Bond become a castrated male. Bland, boring and empty.

Dave Boy 14th February 2020 11:35 AM

^ Excellent. My thoughts as well.

hivemind 14th February 2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Boy (Post 620569)
^ Excellent. My thoughts as well.


I think James Bond is now on his way out. Just like Dr Who, Terminator, Ghostbusters and Star Trek + many more franchises owned by the corporations.

You destroy the old to bring in the new. Total destruction.

How I miss sanity in a world that's gone insane.

Demdike@Cult Labs 14th February 2020 11:48 AM

I don't hate that. I don't think she's a great singer, but the song itself is the best since You Know My Name.

Dave Boy 14th February 2020 11:49 AM

Quote:

I think James Bond is now on his way out. Just like Dr Who, Terminator, Ghostbusters and Star Trek + many more franchises owned by the corporations.

You destroy the old to bring in the new. Total destruction.

How I miss sanity in a world that's gone insane.

Yep, totally agree with you.

hivemind 14th February 2020 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 620572)
I don't hate that. I don't think she's a great singer, but the song itself is the best since You Know My Name.

Did you have Scotch Whiskey last night Dem. Lol. Oh Lord.

Demdike@Cult Labs 14th February 2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hivemind (Post 620574)
Did you have Scotch Whiskey last night Dem. Lol. Oh Lord.

:lol:

I think musically the song embellishes several Bond themes from the past and is fine.

As i said, she's not what i'd call a good singer, i bet Lana Del Rey would have done it better, or Nick Cave.

I gave up thinking the films were 'real' Bond from Quantum onwards.


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