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The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 4th January 2009 11:16 AM

Once Upon A Time ...The Sergio Leone Thread
 
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Sergio Leone's masterpiece? IMHO,yes it is.A multi layered violent and sprawling epic,which apparently was fifteen years in the making.A staggering 265 minute cut is rumoured to exist on this,which was made for Italian TV,which according to Leone biographer Christopher Frayling,these extra scenes DO exist,but have never been dubbed,and unfortunately has never been seen....:(
What's the general consensus on this one folks?
Do you,like me prefer this to Leone's westerns?

gore64 4th January 2009 11:32 AM

I saw this on its original theatrical release and like it a lot, although I don't think I've watched it again in its entirety since, despite having the DVD release. Definitely a film you have to be in the mood to watch, and one that you have to pay close attention to. I've always loved the Morricone score, one of his very best.

Perversely I've always wanted to see the US theatrical version just to see what it was like - here's Roger Ebert's review of both.

Angel 4th January 2009 12:11 PM

I prefer Leone's westerns, they're more fun.

I've never been able to watch "America" all the way through.
Too long, too slow.

Then again I'm not really into Gangster films anyway apart from The Untouchables.

cloud 4th January 2009 05:34 PM

I do like this film and in fact have yet to see one Leone film I haven't liked though ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST is strictly a mood only film and could have been shortened a touch. AMERICA is another one you have to be in the mood for due to its meandering plot. But stick with it and you're rewarded. There's something about the last 10 minutes which is really special in my opinion.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 4th January 2009 10:43 PM

Yes,it would be interesting to see the original cut.....

bedorca 18th January 2009 07:17 PM

Fantastic movie :cool:

mark meakin 19th January 2009 08:44 AM

It's good with some fine acting but it's an hour overlong as it is IMHO.I prefer Leone's westerns too.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 24th September 2009 10:12 PM

Been reading more on this sprawling epic.Leone's original vision for the begining of the movie was to have the camera pan into the Hudson river,continue to the bottom,pan across a history of cars and dead bodies,pan back upwards,out the water and focus on the Statue of Liberty.But apparently some other director nicked this before shooting began.:rolleyes:
What an opening that would have been!:cool:

Gojirosan 14th October 2009 06:21 PM

Leone is my favourite director and I love "Once Upon A Time In America", but no, I prefer his Westerns - well the "Dollars" trio and "West" anyway.

Indeed, "Once Upon A Time In The West" is my all time favourite film - has been since I was about 15 or so.

Nonetheless, "America" is a masterpiece. The man was an astonishing artist, in my opinion.

BioZombie 14th October 2009 06:56 PM

I have to say I too prefer the westerns, America is great but a little over long for me only seen it one all the way through.

DeadAlive 15th October 2009 12:29 PM

I would rate it as high as the Godfather films, well 1 & 2 anyway - (3 was crap!) but I have to admit it can be a bit hard going to get through the full film in one sitting. The westerns are more fun, especially the likes of "Once Upon A Time In The West " and "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly ". A lot depends on what kind of mood I'm in.

Pete 15th October 2009 12:54 PM

I like America but like most people i prefer his westerns.

DoTheMonkey 12th April 2010 10:52 PM

It's cool that Argento co-wrote it!

broonage 13th April 2010 07:47 AM

I watched this recently, good stuff.

wayfarer 16th June 2010 01:30 PM

...America is a classic movie. I've nver thought of it as overlong, though. i love the ambiguous ending that still creates debate even today.

I do prefer the Westerns though, especially Fistful of Dynamite.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 16th June 2010 07:36 PM

Good to see new members having a right good trawl through the forums.:cool:

wayfarer 17th June 2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reaper Man (Post 86619)
Good to see new members having a right good trawl through the forums.:cool:

Guilty as charged m'lud!;)

darthelvis 17th June 2010 09:33 PM

I must pick up Fistful of Dynamite! What;s the best edition to get?

Inspector Tanzi 17th June 2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by loops (Post 44644)
I like America but like most people i prefer his westerns.

Same here.

Once upon a time in the west is my favourite film btw.

wayfarer 17th June 2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by darthelvis (Post 87056)
I must pick up Fistful of Dynamite! What;s the best edition to get?


Unless a Blu-Ray is on teh cards, this is the best version on Region 2;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fistful-Dyna...6814663&sr=1-4

Check out the reviews. I agree with those that say it's possibly Leone's best. It's got a sense of humour but the restored version with re-inserted scenes is actually quite moving too.

Inspector Tanzi 17th June 2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 87077)
Unless a Blu-Ray is on teh cards, this is the best version on Region 2;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fistful-Dyna...6814663&sr=1-4

Check out the reviews. I agree with those that say it's possibly Leone's best. It's got a sense of humour but the restored version with re-inserted scenes is actually quite moving too.

Get the German Region 2 release, you can get it in a nifty steelbook too:cool:, the U.K. one is cut by the BBFC.

wayfarer 18th June 2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector Tanzi (Post 87080)
Get the German Region 2 release, you can get it in a nifty steelbook too:cool:, the U.K. one is cut by the BBFC.

6 seconds for horsefalls. I can live with that. If it was something intregal to the plot, I'd be pissed off.

the blob 7th July 2010 12:01 AM

Once Upon A Time In America was my favourite gangster movie for years. I must've gone to see it on the big screen at least 5 times. It's probably between that or Godfather Pt. 2 now. Somehow, despite really ending up being a complete a-hole, there's still something slightly redeemable in De Niro's character.

wayfarer 7th July 2010 09:46 AM

Very slightly redeemable, me thinks:lol:

the blob 7th July 2010 01:27 PM

A veritable saint compared to Michael Corleone.. :lol:

wayfarer 7th July 2010 02:15 PM

True!:nod:

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 7th July 2010 04:26 PM

I'm absolutely CHOKING to see this on Blu Ray!:nod:

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 20th January 2011 07:36 PM

And now I've choked and gone to heaven.Arrived yesterday from the U.S.

So come on,who else is picking up this classic on BD?

Inspector Tanzi 20th January 2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper@Cult Labs (Post 123124)
So come on,who else is picking up this classic on BD?

I will be soon, without question.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 20th January 2011 07:42 PM

Perfect Sunday afternoon viewing.
Let's hope it's dry so I can send the weans oot tae play! :happy:

the blob 20th January 2011 08:01 PM

I'm waiting for the UK version of OUATIA. I love it but there's so much else to buy I can probably wait for a bit. I almost feel like I know the film off by heart anyway after seeing it in the cinema quite a few times and countless times on VHS and dvd. :)

Inspector Tanzi 20th January 2011 08:09 PM

All we need now is "The West" and "Dynamite"

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 20th January 2011 08:16 PM

Surely West won't be long now....

the blob 20th January 2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper@Cult Labs (Post 123177)
Surely West won't be long now....

Paramount.. don't they release about 1 catalogue BD per year now?

Paul@TheOverlook 20th January 2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspector Tanzi (Post 123171)
All we need now is "The West" and "Dynamite"

What the world really needs is THE COLOSSUS OF RHODES in HD.

Inspector Tanzi 21st January 2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul@Lovelockandload (Post 123211)
What the world really needs is THE COLOSSUS OF RHODES in HD.

More concerened about the westerns mate, especially OUATITW as it is my favourite film ;)

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 12th March 2011 08:25 PM

This is a masterpiecex but I'm really not sure where it fits in with Sergio Leone's best films -- I have the BD but I'm waiting for a time when I have four hours spare one evening before watching it as I don't want to watch it in instalments; it's in one viewing or not at all!

the blob 13th March 2011 02:15 AM

I'm still yet to buy it.. all in good time but I just saw this at blu-ray.com:


The Bologna Cinematheque, through its prestigious L'Immagine Ritrovata laboratory, is going to fully restore Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in America and add 40 minutes of original footage to its 229-minute running time. There is no information about a Blu-ray release, in Italy or elsewhere.

This extended version, commissioned after Leone's children acquired Italian rights to the film, is being supervised by the film's original sound editor and will be screened in 2012 at film festivals and possibly in theaters.


Personally, I love the film as it is but it'll be interesting to see.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 13th March 2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by the blob (Post 135201)

Personally, I love the film as it is but it'll be interesting to see.

Same here and, with those extra 40 minutes, it will clock in at a mammoth 270 minutes!

wayfarer 14th March 2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 135226)
Same here and, with those extra 40 minutes, it will clock in at a mammoth 270 minutes!


I'm intrigued to know what the 40 minutes will add to the movie. It could kill it like the extra footage added to Apocalypse Now killed that movie.

A question to those of you who bought the Blu-Ray of "...America" - what is your verdict on PQ and AQ?


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