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Susan Foreman 8th February 2022 06:59 AM

Award season 2022: Worst and Best - The Razzies and The Oscars
 
The nominations for the 2022 Razzies have been announced:

Leading the pack is 'Diana the Musical', with an impressive 9 nominations (over 8 categories), with both 'Karen' and 'The Woman In The Window' as distant followers (with 5 nominations each) and 'Dear Evan Hansen' and 'Space Jam: A New Legacy' which could only manage a paltry 4 nominations!

Worst Picture
Diana the Musical (The Netflix Version)
Infinite (Paramount+)
Karen (Quiver Distribution)
Space Jam: A New Legacy (Warner Bros. Pictures)
The Woman in the Window (Netflix)

Worst Director
Christopher Ashley – Diana the Musical
Stephen Chbosky – Dear Evan Hansen
"Coke" Daniels – Karen
Renny Harlin – The Misfits
Joe Wright – The Woman in the Window

Worst Actor
Scott Eastwood – 'Dangerous' as Dylan "D" Forrester
Roe Hartrampf – 'Diana the Musical' as Prince Charles
LeBron James – 'Space Jam: A New Legacy' as Himself
Ben Platt – 'Dear Evan Hansen' as Evan Hansen
Mark Wahlberg – 'Infinite' as Evan McCauley / Heinrich Treadway (2020)

Worst Actress
Amy Adams – 'The Woman in the Window' as Dr. Anna Fox
Jeanna de Waal – 'Diana the Musical' as Princess Diana
Megan Fox – 'Midnight in the Switchgrass' as Rebecca Lombardi
Taryn Manning – 'Karen' as Karen Drexler
Ruby Rose – 'Vanquish' as Victoria

Worst Supporting Actor
Ben Affleck – 'The Last Duel' as Count Pierre d'Alençon
Nick Cannon – 'The Misfits' as Ringo
Mel Gibson – 'Dangerous' as Dr. Alderwood
Gareth Keegan – 'Diana the Musical' as James Hewitt, the Muscle-Bound Horse Trainer
Jared Leto – 'House of Gucci' as Paolo Gucci

Worst Supporting Actress
Amy Adams – 'Dear Evan Hansen' as Cynthia Murphy
Sophie Cookson – 'Infinite' as Nora Brightman
Erin Davie – 'Diana the Musical' as Camilla Parker Bowles
Judy Kaye – 'Diana the Musical' as BOTH Queen Elizabeth II and Barbara Cartland
Taryn Manning – 'Every Last One of Them' as Maggie

Worst Screen Combo
Any klutzy cast member and any lamely lyricized (or choreographed) musical number – 'Diana the Musical'
LeBron James and any Warner cartoon character (or Time-Warner product) he dribbles on – 'Space Jam: A New Legacy'
Jared Leto and either his 17-pound latex face, his geeky clothes or his ridiculous accent – 'House of Gucci'
Ben Platt and any other character who acts like Platt singing 24-7 is normal – 'Dear Evan Hansen'
Tom and Jerry (aka Itchy & Scratchy) – 'Tom & Jerry'

Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
'Karen' (Quiver Distribution) (Inadvertent Remake of Cruella deVil)
'Space Jam: A New Legacy' (Warner Bros. Pictures)
'Tom & Jerry' (Warner Bros. Pictures)
'Twist' (Sky Cinema) (Rap remake of Oliver Twist)
'The Woman in the Window' (Netflix) (Rip-off of Rear Window)

Worst Screenplay
'Diana the Musical' – Script by Joe DiPietro; Music and Lyrics by David Bryan and DiPietro
'Karen' – Written by "Coke" Daniels
'The Misfits' – Screenplay by Robert Henny and Kurt Wimmer; Screen Story by Henny
'Twist' – Written by Sally Collett and John Wrathall; Additional Material by Tom Grass, Kevin Lehane, Michael Lindley, and Matthew Parkhill (from an "Original Idea" by David T. Lynch, Keith Lynch, and Simon Thomas
'The Woman in the Window' – Screenplay by Tracy Letts (from the novel by A. J. Finn)

Worst Performance by Bruce Willis in a 2021 Movie
'American Siege' as Ben Watts
'Apex' as Thomas Malone, The Prey
'Cosmic Sin' as James Ford
'Deadlock' as Ron Whitlock
'Fortress' as Robert Michaels
'Midnight in the Switchgrass' as Karl Helter
'Out of Death' as Jack Harris
'Survive the Game' as David

nosferatu42 8th February 2022 07:46 AM

I must say i've never even heard of it before but Diana the musical sounds hilarious.:lol:

Susan Foreman 8th February 2022 01:50 PM

The nominations for the 2022 Oscars have been announced:

'The Power of the Dog' seems to be the favourite, with a total of 12 nominations over the board. This is followed by 'Dune', with 10 nominations and 'Belfast' and 'West Side Story', both of which have 7 nominations

Best Picture
The Power of the Dog
West Side Story
Belfast
Dune
Licorice Pizza
King Richard
CODA
Don't Look Up
Drive My Car
Nightmare Alley

Best Director
Jane Campion - The Power of the Dog
Paul Thomas Anderson - Licorice Pizza
Steven Spielberg - West Side Story
Sir Kenneth Branagh - Belfast
Ryusuke Hamaguchi - Drive My Car

Best Actor
Will Smith - King Richard
Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Andrew Garfield - Tick, Tick... Boom!
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth
Javier Bardem - Being the Ricardos

Best Actress
Olivia Colman - The Lost Daughter
Nicole Kidman - Being the Ricardos
Jessica Chastain - The Eyes of Tammy Faye
Kristen Stewart - Spencer
Penelope Cruz - Parallel Mothers

Best Supporting Actor
Kodi Smit-McPhee - The Power of the Dog
Ciarán Hinds - Belfast
Troy Kotsur - Coda
Jesse Plemons - The Power of the Dog
JK Simmons - Being the Ricardos

Best Supporting Actress
Ariana DeBose - West Side Story
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Aunjanue Ellis - King Richard
Dame Judi Dench - Belfast
Jesse Buckley - The Lost Daughter

Best Animated Feature
Encanto
Luca
The Mitchells vs the Machines
Flee
Raya and the Last Dragon

Best Documentary
Summer of Soul
Flee
Ascension
Attica
Writing with Fire

Best International Film
Drive My Car (Japan)
The Worst Person in the World (Norway)
Flee (Denmark)
The Hand of God (Italy)
Lunana: A Yak in the Classroom (Bhutan)

Susan Foreman 26th March 2022 06:16 AM

'Diana: The Musical' was the clear winner at the Razzies, gaining an impressive 5 statuettes, with it's closest rival, 'Space Jam: A New Legacy' managing to grab itself 3

...And the Razzie goes to...
Worst Picture
Diana the Musical (The Netflix Version)
Infinite (Paramount+)
Karen (Quiver Distribution)
Space Jam: A New Legacy (Warner Bros. Pictures)
The Woman in the Window (Netflix)
Worst Director
Christopher Ashley – Diana the Musical
Stephen Chbosky – Dear Evan Hansen
"Coke" Daniels – Karen
Renny Harlin – The Misfits
Joe Wright – The Woman in the Window
Worst Actor
Scott Eastwood – 'Dangerous' as Dylan "D" Forrester
Roe Hartrampf – 'Diana the Musical' as Prince Charles
LeBron James – 'Space Jam: A New Legacy' as Himself
Ben Platt – 'Dear Evan Hansen' as Evan Hansen
Mark Wahlberg – 'Infinite' as Evan McCauley / Heinrich Treadway (2020)
Worst Actress
Amy Adams – 'The Woman in the Window' as Dr. Anna Fox
Jeanna de Waal – 'Diana the Musical' as Princess Diana
Megan Fox – 'Midnight in the Switchgrass' as Rebecca Lombardi
Taryn Manning – 'Karen' as Karen Drexler
Ruby Rose – 'Vanquish' as Victoria
Worst Supporting Actor
Ben Affleck – 'The Last Duel' as Count Pierre d'Alençon
Nick Cannon – 'The Misfits' as Ringo
Mel Gibson – 'Dangerous' as Dr. Alderwood
Gareth Keegan – 'Diana the Musical' as James Hewitt, the Muscle-Bound Horse Trainer
Jared Leto – 'House of Gucci' as Paolo Gucci
Worst Supporting Actress
Amy Adams – 'Dear Evan Hansen' as Cynthia Murphy
Sophie Cookson – 'Infinite' as Nora Brightman
Erin Davie – 'Diana the Musical' as Camilla Parker Bowles
Judy Kaye – 'Diana the Musical' as BOTH Queen Elizabeth II and Barbara Cartland
Taryn Manning – 'Every Last One of Them' as Maggie
Worst Screen Combo
Any klutzy cast member and any lamely lyricized (or choreographed) musical number – 'Diana the Musical'
LeBron James and any Warner cartoon character (or Time-Warner product) he dribbles on – 'Space Jam: A New Legacy'
Jared Leto and either his 17-pound latex face, his geeky clothes or his ridiculous accent – 'House of Gucci'
Ben Platt and any other character who acts like Platt singing 24-7 is normal – 'Dear Evan Hansen'
Tom and Jerry (aka Itchy & Scratchy) – 'Tom & Jerry'
Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
'Karen' (Quiver Distribution) (Inadvertent Remake of Cruella deVil)
'Space Jam: A New Legacy' (Warner Bros. Pictures)
'Tom & Jerry' (Warner Bros. Pictures)
'Twist' (Sky Cinema) (Rap remake of Oliver Twist)
'The Woman in the Window' (Netflix) (Rip-off of Rear Window)
Worst Screenplay
'Diana the Musical' – Script by Joe DiPietro; Music and Lyrics by David Bryan and DiPietro
'Karen' – Written by "Coke" Daniels
'The Misfits' – Screenplay by Robert Henny and Kurt Wimmer; Screen Story by Henny
'Twist' – Written by Sally Collett and John Wrathall; Additional Material by Tom Grass, Kevin Lehane, Michael Lindley, and Matthew Parkhill (from an "Original Idea" by David T. Lynch, Keith Lynch, and Simon Thomas
'The Woman in the Window' – Screenplay by Tracy Letts (from the novel by A. J. Finn)
Worst Performance by Bruce Willis in a 2021 Movie
'American Siege' as Ben Watts
'Apex' as Thomas Malone, The Prey
'Cosmic Sin' as James Ford
'Deadlock' as Ron Whitlock
'Fortress' as Robert Michaels
'Midnight in the Switchgrass' as Karl Helter
'Out of Death' as Jack Harris
'Survive the Game' as David

And the winner of the 2022 Razzie Redeemer award is...

Will Smith for his role in 'King Richard'

iank 26th March 2022 08:42 PM

I've never heard of any of these films.

MrBarlow 26th March 2022 09:59 PM

That's The Woman In The Window scratched off my watchlist :lol:

Demdike@Cult Labs 26th March 2022 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iank (Post 668732)
I've never heard of any of these films.

Same here. I don't give a stuff about them or the Oscars.

nicholasrope 27th March 2022 09:56 PM

Yeah, I love Films but it doesn't seem that the biggest Awards Show for it doesn't seem to suit me.

The only Films, I can really root for are West Side Story and King Richard, the rest I haven't seen nor liked (Dune)

I wish there was a hybrid of The Oscars and The MTV Movie Awards where more mainstream Movies are regularly nominated without the public voting system.

gag 27th March 2022 10:50 PM

Power of the dog won film of the year, I tried watching it couple month back but couldn't get I to I'm not sure why, I'll give it another try at a later date.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th March 2022 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gag (Post 668778)
Power of the dog won film of the year, I tried watching it couple month back but couldn't get I to I'm not sure why, I'll give it another try at a later date.

It hasn't won. It hasn't even started yet. The Oscars don't begin for another hour and a quarter and go on until 4am

Susan Foreman 28th March 2022 06:37 AM

...And the Oscar goes to...
Best Picture
The Power of the Dog
West Side Story
Belfast
Dune
Licorice Pizza
King Richard
CODA
Don't Look Up
Drive My Car
Nightmare Alley
Best Director
Jane Campion - The Power of the Dog
Paul Thomas Anderson - Licorice Pizza
Steven Spielberg - West Side Story
Sir Kenneth Branagh - Belfast
Ryusuke Hamaguchi - Drive My Car
Best Actor
Will Smith - King Richard
Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Andrew Garfield - Tick, Tick... Boom!
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth
Javier Bardem - Being the Ricardos
Best Actress
Olivia Colman - The Lost Daughter
Nicole Kidman - Being the Ricardos
Jessica Chastain - The Eyes of Tammy Faye
Kristen Stewart - Spencer
Penelope Cruz - Parallel Mothers
Best Supporting Actor
Kodi Smit-McPhee - The Power of the Dog
Ciarán Hinds - Belfast
Troy Kotsur - Coda
Jesse Plemons - The Power of the Dog
JK Simmons - Being the Ricardos
Best Supporting Actress
Ariana DeBose - West Side Story
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Aunjanue Ellis - King Richard
Dame Judi Dench - Belfast
Jesse Buckley - The Lost Daughter
Best Animated Feature
Encanto
Luca
The Mitchells vs the Machines
Flee
Raya and the Last Dragon
Best Documentary
Summer of Soul
Flee
Ascension
Attica
Writing with Fire
Best International Film
Drive My Car (Japan)
The Worst Person in the World (Norway)
Flee (Denmark)
The Hand of God (Italy)
Lunana: A Yak in the Classroom (Bhutan)

There was also a late addition to the nominations: The Best Impromptu, Improvised, Spur-Of-The-Moment, Not Really Scripted,
"I'm-Not-Acting-This-Is-Genuine", Honest Guv
' moment went to Will Smith when he punch host Chris Rock for comments that were made about Smith's wife Jada Pinkett Smith!


gag 28th March 2022 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 668779)
It hasn't won. It hasn't even started yet. The Oscars don't begin for another hour and a quarter and go on until 4am

So what was that film awards about 2 weeks ago on itv?
Take it that was something different?

Susan Foreman 28th March 2022 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gag (Post 668787)
So what was that film awards about 2 weeks ago on itv?
Take it that was something different?

Probably the BAFTA awards

'The Power Of The Dog' won best feature at that event

gag 28th March 2022 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susan Foreman (Post 668788)
Probably the BAFTA awards

'The Power Of The Dog' won best feature at that event

Ah right thanks :)

Justin101 28th March 2022 06:45 AM

Yeah the BAFTAs are always a few weeks before the Oscars.

Surprised that Power of the Dog didn’t actually win but Jane Campion at least took best director for the film. I thought it was a great film. I’ve not heard of Coda, I think it’s on Apple TV, I think… I’ll have to check it out.

Susan Foreman 28th March 2022 07:26 AM

Even more shocking than the shockingly unscripted punch that Will Smith shockingly gave Chris Rock that shocked the people in attendance and the viewing public and resulted in a shocking moment that will go down in history as the moment that shocked the Oscar ceremony is the shocking contents of the 'gift bags' that all nominees are given

According to the Daily Mail, each bag consists of:
  • Gift sized plot of land from Highland Titles - Cost: $197 per 100sqft
  • OPOPOP Flavor Wrapped Popcorn Kernels - Cost: $34.99 per gift box
  • Premium assortment of Bahlsen's chocolate biscuits: Containing a variety of 10 packs - Cost: $20
  • Gift box from skincare brand Byroe Byroe - Cost: Over $365
  • Gift box from HempHera Kosmetikos - Cost: From $36.99
  • Selection of Spermidine Life supplements - Cost: $396
  • A three-night stay in Scotland's Turin Castle includes: private use of the entire 10-bedroom Castle for 2 guests, fully-inclusive butler service and dining, bagpiper welcome on arrival, private gin tasting, and fully-personalized concierge service. - Cost: On application
  • Ariti premium extra virgin olive oil infused with edible gold flakes - Cost: On application
  • The Celebrity Arms liposuction treatment at cosmetic surgery Art Lipo - Cost: $9,500-$15,000
  • Products from C60 Purple Power - Cost: $34-$370
  • Chai gift set from The Chai Box - Cost: $90
  • Copy of Building a Legacy of Love: Thriving in the Sandwich Generation by Christy Byrne Yates - Cost: $14
  • Products from Coal and Canary - Cost: $60
  • Comvita UMF 10+ Manuka Honey - Cost: $72
  • Selection of treatments and rejuvenations: at Dr. Konstantin's Luxe Upper East Side office - Cost: $10,000
  • Three in-home training sessions in Los Angeles with fitness trainer Diego Sebastian - Cost: On application
  • Elixinol Sleep Gummies: offered in a sweet blueberry flavor - Cost: $29.99
  • Euka's On-The-Go Kit - Cost: $58
  • Exploding Kittens: all-new Mantis games Throw Throw Avocado and Exploding Minions - Cost: $58
  • Badges from The Film Pin Society - Cost: from $15
  • Four-night stay for two at Golden Door spas - Cost: $6,000
  • T-shirt from Happiest Tee - Cost: $20
  • Hotsy Totsy Haus + Devour Por Vida Blue Lux CBD Bath Bomb: topped with a clear quartz crystal that is nestled in 24k gold - Cost: from $9.99
  • Qai Qai doll - Cost: $29
  • Jayde Spot Away - Cost: Exclusive product
  • Karma Nuts: variety pack of 4 award-winning air-roasted cashews: Sea Salt, Cocoa Dusted, Golden Turmeric, and Cinnamon. - Cost: $14.99
  • Life coaching session: with holistic healing and wellness expert Kayote Joseph. - Cost: $700 per session
  • Complimentary project management: on nominees next remodel or ground up project from Maison Construction, a premiere Los Angeles based construction and development company. - Cost: On application
  • NutriFit experience - Cost: $1,734 (28 day premium plan)
  • A year's supply of Oxygenetix: An award-winning breathable makeup foundation that has a celebrity cult following. - Cost: $708(12 bottles)
  • PETA 'SeaWorld … BLOWS inflatable - Cost: Exclusive product
  • Piper & Perro unisex perfume - Cost: $35
  • Posh Pretzels gold petite presentation gift box - Cost: $20
  • Premium Alcohol Seltzer press - Cost: $26.49 (12 cans)
  • Self love with Nicola: Gift Card for one session with award winning Self-Love Coach and Shaman, Nicola Fernandes - Cost: On application
  • Serucell KFS: Cellular Protein Complex Serum - Cost: $225
  • Shinery's Radiance Wash - Cost: $28
  • Siempre tequila plata - Cost: $60
  • Skinny SBU socks - Cost: $43
  • Soul Shropshire: Relax Limited Edition Diffuser - Cost: $38
  • S. Pellegrino: branded water & wine pairing gift box featuring a 750ml bottle of S.Pellegrino Natural Sparkling Mineral Water and a 750ml bottle of Tolani Al Passo 2018 Chianti Classico - Cost: Exclusive product
  • Tangle Teezer: The Ultimate Detangler - Cost: $14
  • Tree by Melina Sempill Watts - Cost: $14
  • Trust Me Vodka: A limited-edition artist series collector box featuring artwork by Archan Nair and two bottles of Trust Me Vodka - Cost: $60
  • T-Time products: Interpersonal Shea Butter Balm - Cost: $28
  • Turboflex eyewear (by Aspex eyewear group) - Cost: Price on application
  • Vahdam India's Rover Bottle - Cost: $12.50
  • Warmies - Cost: From $22
  • Whipped drinks: A kit with all of the tools to make the perfect whipped coffee at home in only 60 seconds. - Cost: $49
  • Wunderkeks: 'Red Carpet Fudgiest Brownies Ever' covered with gold leaf - Cost: $44.95
  • Brad Yates novel The Wizard's Wish - Cost: $22
  • Youth's Anti-Blemish Concentrate - Cost: $22

Demdike@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susan Foreman (Post 668786)
There was also a late addition to the nominations: The Best Impromptu, Improvised, Spur-Of-The-Moment, Not Really Scripted,
"I'm-Not-Acting-This-Is-Genuine", Honest Guv
' moment went to Will Smith when he punch host Chris Rock for comments that were made about Smith's wife Jada Pinkett Smith!


That was so bad it was untrue. Just seen it on the news this morning. Rock actually puts his chin out as a target then actors do what actors do and act.

Totally staged as you say to boost a pompous awards ceremony that America had become totally bored with in recent years and ratings plummeted. Now it'll be the talk of office water coolers everywhere.

Note the 'altercation' was between two black men therefore nobody could come up with the race card and actually taint the awards ceremony with anything other than 'high drama'.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 668794)
That was so bad it was untrue. Just seen it on the news this morning. Rock actually puts his chin out as a target then actors do what actors do and act.

Totally staged as you say to boost a pompous awards ceremony that America had become totally bored with in recent years and ratings plummeted. Now it'll be the talk of office water coolers everywhere.

Note the 'altercation' was between two black men therefore nobody could come up with the race card and actually taint the awards ceremony with anything other than 'high drama'.

I don't think it was staged because Chris Rock seemed genuinely surprised.

If there was an arrangement between the two men that there would be a physical assault following a joke about Jada Pinkett Smith's alopecia, Chris Rock could have come back from a commercial break with an 'I got in one little fight and my mom got scared, so now I'm moving to my auntie and uncle's in Bel-Air' joke. That would have been funny.

As for the awards themselves, I haven't seen 95% of the films nominated, though will try to see all the winners and nominees in the next few years.

Demdike@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 668801)
I don't think it was staged because Chris Rock seemed genuinely surprised.


As for the awards themselves, I haven't seen 95% of the films nominated, though will try to see all the winners and nominees in the next few years.

Surely that's good acting though. It all seemed very WWE to me.

Especially when you consider there's absolutely nothing else to discuss regarding the ceremony. They've gone as inclusive as possible with the best film but ended up giving it to a film nobody has seen nor will want to see. Except your good self.

At least this has everyone talking about the drama of the OSCARS once again even if nobody gives a monkeys about the actual awards. Twitter will be on fire and that's all people care about in 2021.

gag 28th March 2022 12:05 PM

So someone famous goes over and smacks the presenter on live tv yet not one single person stood up and did anything, Or any security thinking it might spiral out of control, if that was joe bloggs from the public they are all over it, normally anyone even if just security would be having a quiet word in will ear, and someone checking if Chris is ok, but nope no one at all, does that alone not seem odd, even if no one was bothered don't you think it was a bit odd that Chris didn't even put his hand on his face as if to say ow, that's normal reaction to do when someone smacks you.

Demdike@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gag (Post 668803)
So someone famous goes over and smacks the presenter on live tv yet not one single person stood up and did anything, Or any security thinking it might spiral out of control, if that was joe bloggs from the public they are all over it, normally anyone even if just security would be having a quiet word in will ear, and someone checking if Chris is ok, but nope no one at all, does that alone not seem odd, even if no one was bothered don't you think it was a bit odd that Chris didn't even put his hand on his face as if to say ow, that's normal reaction to do when someone smacks you.

Very true, gag.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 668802)
Surely that's good acting though. It all seemed very WWE to me.

Especially when you consider there's absolutely nothing else to discuss regarding the ceremony. They've gone as inclusive as possible with the best film but ended up giving it to a film nobody has seen nor will want to see. Except your good self.

At least this has everyone talking about the drama of the OSCARS once again even if nobody gives a monkeys about the actual awards. Twitter will be on fire and that's all people care about in 2021.

Of all the films up for nomination, I've seen:
  • Nightmare Alley (Best Picture nominee)
  • West Side Story (Best Picture nominee)
  • Encanto (Best Animated Feature winner)
  • Luca (Best Animated Feature nominee)
  • Raya and the Last Dragon (Best Animated Feature nominee)
  • Cruella (Best Costume Design winner and Best Makeup and Hair nominee)
  • No Time To Die (Best Sound and Best Visual Effects nominee)
  • Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (Best Visual Effects nominee)

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gag (Post 668803)
So someone famous goes over and smacks the presenter on live tv yet not one single person stood up and did anything, Or any security thinking it might spiral out of control, if that was joe bloggs from the public they are all over it, normally anyone even if just security would be having a quiet word in will ear, and someone checking if Chris is ok, but nope no one at all, does that alone not seem odd, even if no one was bothered don't you think it was a bit odd that Chris didn't even put his hand on his face as if to say ow, that's normal reaction to do when someone smacks you.

I think everyone was a bit taken aback, Chris Rock included

I don't know what security was around, but what could/should they have done when a Best Actor nominee walks from the front row to the stage, up to the presenter, slaps him, and then goes straight back to his seat?

Chris Rock seemed to take the assault in his stride and was more bothered by Will Smith's shouted demand not to talk about his wife than the physical confrontation.

The fact that he felt comfortable saying what he did and Smith wasn't concerned about any comeback from smacking someone in the face in front of a large audience and on live TV shows how privileged they are and feel.

Like you say, if a member of the public had walked up and smacked the presenter in the face, they would have been arrested.

Super 8 28th March 2022 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 668801)
I don't think it was staged because Chris Rock seemed genuinely surprised.

I do not think it was staged either,If you look at Jada's face when Chris makes the joke you can see she is not a happy woman after the joke and Will make his move on Chris also would the broadcaster allow so much swearing even though it was bleeped out?

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super 8 (Post 668818)
I do not think it was staged either,If you look at Jada's face when Chris makes the joke you can see she is not a happy woman after the joke and Will make his move on Chris also would the broadcaster allow so much swearing even though it was bleeped out?

The use of expletives is what makes it authentic to me. The Oscars ceremony is a prestigious event broadcast to millions of homes and rated TV-PG. Even with the delay for networks to moderate the content, for an A-list to drop the 'F bomb' twice – not accidentally, but intentionally and with anger – would be considered a big deal.

Demdike@Cult Labs 28th March 2022 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 668821)
The use of expletives is what makes it authentic to me. The Oscars ceremony is a prestigious event broadcast to millions of homes and rated TV-PG. Even with the delay for networks to moderate the content, for an A-list to drop the 'F bomb' twice – not accidentally, but intentionally and with anger – would be considered a big deal.

Do you recall the MTV Awards when Sacha Baron Cohen as Bruno descended on wings and landed on top of Eminem whilst he was performing and stormed off the stage in a hail of expletives?

It was all supposedly real until it finally came out that both stars had performed it.

To me last night was a similar stunt.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 29th March 2022 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 668824)
Do you recall the MTV Awards when Sacha Baron Cohen as Bruno descended on wings and landed on top of Eminem whilst he was performing and stormed off the stage in a hail of expletives?

It was all supposedly real until it finally came out that both stars had performed it.

To me last night was a similar stunt.

If it was a stunt, why do it when the show is almost over and there's only a few awards to give out?

Also, say the Academy approached Will Smith and Chris Rock, saying "Chris, we want you to make a joke at Jada Pinkett Smith's appearance and we want Will to walk onto the stage, smack you round the face, and then yell at you. Will will have to apologise during the ceremony and then again on social media."

I can't see that Will Smith gains anything from this. Chris Rock possibly has a bit of material, but knows he should be wary about making jokes about people's wives again. If both men don't want to do it, what could the Academy possibly offer them to make it an attractive proposal?

Demdike@Cult Labs 29th March 2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 668831)
If it was a stunt, why do it when the show is almost over and there's only a few awards to give out?

Also, say the Academy approached Will Smith and Chris Rock, saying "Chris, we want you to make a joke at Jada Pinkett Smith's appearance and we want Will to walk onto the stage, smack you round the face, and then yell at you. Will will have to apologise during the ceremony and then again on social media."

I can't see that Will Smith gains anything from this. Chris Rock possibly has a bit of material, but knows he should be wary about making jokes about people's wives again. If both men don't want to do it, what could the Academy possibly offer them to make it an attractive proposal?

Attractive proposition you say? Well one of them could be guaranteed a shiny gold statue whilst the other paid a handsome bonus on top of their pay check for hosting.

Demdike@Cult Labs 29th March 2022 09:48 AM

This has become boring really quickly. However i'll close with this pic of two very angry looking men who have just had a punch up on stage.

https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/...=720&q=90&c=cc

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 29th March 2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 668832)
Attractive proposition you say? Well one of them could be guaranteed a shiny gold statue whilst the other paid a handsome bonus on top of their pay check for hosting.

Do you think the Oscars are fixed? Will Smith won a BAFTA, Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild, and Critics' Choice award for his portrayal of Richard Williams. He was the betting favourite because it was clear the industry had recognised he gave the best performance by an actor in a leading role.

People are now saying he should be stripped of his Oscar, which is ludicrous considering nothing like that was done to Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey.

Demdike@Cult Labs 29th March 2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 668838)
Do you think the Oscars are fixed? Will Smith won a BAFTA, Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild, and Critics' Choice award for his portrayal of Richard Williams. He was the betting favourite because it was clear the industry had recognised he gave the best performance by an actor in a leading role.

People are now saying he should be stripped of his Oscar, which is ludicrous considering nothing like that was done to Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey.

Well let's say this. Some of the choices of best film winners have been rather strange when you've seen what they have been up against. So has the thinking behind quite a few acting Oscars over the years. For example giving long serving actors an Oscar for lesser roles which are seen as more for a body of work than the actual film in question. Al Pacino and John Wayne instantly spring to mind.

So yes, i do think they aren't quite as legit as made out.

And i agree, Smith should not be stripped of his Oscar, that's just nonsense.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 29th March 2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 668841)
Well let's say this. Some of the choices of best film winners have been rather strange when you've seen what they have been up against. So has the thinking behind quite a few acting Oscars over the years. For example giving long serving actors an Oscar for lesser roles which are seen as more for a body of work than the actual film in question. Al Pacino and John Wayne instantly spring to mind.

As you said, I also think there are occasions when Academy members have voted for an actor or director to receive an award as a way of compensating them for missing out in the past.

Martin Scorsese wasn't really the best director for The Departed, but some would say he was overdue winning that award because of missing out for films like Raging Bull, Goodfellas, and The Aviator.

Similarly, Frances McDormand lost out on Oscars for Mississippi Burning and Almost Famous, but was successful for her powerful performance in Three Billboards, a fine piece of acting, but probably not as good as the films where she missed out.

Al Pacino missing out on the best supporting actor in The Godfather, best actor for Serpico, The Godfather Part II, and Dog Day Afternoon, but winning for Scent of a Woman is crackers.

In any case, we're discussing an organisation that thought Driving Miss Daisy was a better film than My Left Foot and Born on the Fourth of July and John Ottman's editing of Bohemian Rhapsody was laudable, so some decisions need to be taken with a large pinch of salt! :lol:

J Harker 29th March 2022 01:46 PM

All this internal Oscar academy politics aside. The actual punch/slap whatever it was just looks fake. It looks like dodgy stuntwork.

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Mojo 29th March 2022 02:45 PM

I think it looked fake too.
Maybe it was a way of preventing anyone poking fun at the luvvies in future - oh no, you never know what they might do :rolleyes:
I think it was a stunt that backfired, hence Will Smith making his ‘ we’ve got such a stressful job’ speech. Pathetic.

J Harker 29th March 2022 07:54 PM

I can understand anyone wanting to smack Chris Rock mind. He irritates the heck out of me.

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Demoncrat 29th March 2022 08:32 PM

I was happy that Summer Of Soul got something as it should mean more folk will watch it now.

As for Hypocritewood?
Meh.

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Demdike@Cult Labs 30th March 2022 03:16 PM

And there it is. Case closed!

Demdike@Cult Labs 30th March 2022 03:31 PM

Anyone remember John Martin's classic book about the video nasties entitled The Seduction of the Gullible?

I believe he's writing a follow up.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 30th March 2022 04:34 PM

This video in which a body language analyst breaks down what happened, from the different reactions to Chris Rock's joke to the slap, and Will Smith's acceptance speech, is interesting.

I thought the analysis of the body movements and the different emotions were very believable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qo0S...BehavioralArts


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