"Defending" isn't the right word, you're right. I guess I was thinking more that it's being rationalized. I understand what you wrote though, blob. It is difficult to wrap my head around, truthfully.

To be honest, I'm not too worried about the misplaced scene in my Anchor Bay DVD.I am, however, bothered about the censor cuts made by the BBFC to the film, I won't be picking up the Shameless BD release for this reason.

Who the hell do you think you are? Condescending pseudo holier than thou garbage like this is the reason why cult labs forums members get a reputation for being mindless fanboys. New york ripper is, was and will forever be know and loved for the sleaze and nasty gore, thats why people buy it! It sure as hell isnt for the artistic merit.

Who are you to bring this guy down because he wants all the gore intact? ITS AN EXPLOTATION FILM! You understand that?? Back in the day horror fans would go nuts trying to track down an uncut version to see the nasty fx, but now we should all evolve into better beings and watch cut versions of horror films for the amazing cinematography? I dont know what world you live in pal but its not the real one.

The Shameless blu-ray is cut, the BU disc is not, its that simple! Its not a scene of a cat eating a mouse, its a cut to one of fulci's most well done and realistic gore effects. The shamesless disc may have its merits, it may be a worthwhile purchase for extras etc but dont start preaching morals at us because we want to see all the gore in a horror/expoitation film

I'm sorry but we don't stand for members verbally assaulting one another here. You're post is extremely insulting. You say Nosferatu's response was condescending and you had to reply with insults? As I've said before, there are many sites out there that are quite for members to insult one another until their hearts content, but not here I'm afraid.


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Hardly a surprise. You say that my post was out of line but you seem to think that his insulting post was fine? That says it all

No, your post was actually a personal verbal attack and I pointed out that we don't stand for that.


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um....and his post was not an attack on the guy he replied to??? Right ok

There's a difference between the two. I'm not here to argue with you. That's all I have to say.


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um..well thats good because you said nothing of importance anyway. Good luck to everyone who is looking forward to buying the cut shameless new york blu for the artistic merit. just dont ask for gore on here though, cause they're better than that ;)

I've just noticed the argument and I see that Lurkingfear is now listed as an ex-member on the forum. I assume that this means that he is banned for defending his right to express an opinion on the subject of The New York Ripper.

Having read through some of the other pages on this thread, and being a fan of the movie, I find it very sad that one can be barred for expressing their views, especially when long term members will have seen similar insulting responses on others threads being allowed with no action taking.

If Nosferatu believes that horrior fans will watch these films for artistic merits, will he be so blind to believe that horror fans will watch a horror film minus the horror that was oringinally in it, just for the sake of seeing someone else mess with the director's true vision?

I will assume that I will be shown as an ex-member very soon.

Lurkingfear RIP