That's fair enough given what you're saying here - I will given them a go at some point, I promise. :)

Apologies for the belated reply (I've only just seen this post), but this last bit really isn't true. The 1937 Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act is very clear about what is and isn't allowed, and it contains two explicit get-out clauses - if the animal cruelty was provably simulated, and if it would have happened regardless of the camera's presence (what I call the David Attenborough defence).

Which is why Hammer made sure that they made the film in such a way as to qualify for one of those exemptions - in this case by using inserts from existing Indian documentary footage rather than staging the fight for the cameras themselves. It's very obvious, especially in the high-definition version, that the close-ups of the snake and the mongoose fighting were shot separately: those shots drop at least a generation and have baked-in debris and exposure fluctuations that aren't visible elsewhere in the scene.

The film was duly passed in 1959 for theatrical release including that footage, and again for Blu-ray release in 2018 - the only real mystery being why other video releases in the interim were cut. My hypothesis is that cuts were overzealously requested by the BBFC and not contested by the distributors - whereas Powerhouse provided enough information and evidence (including a statement from a member of the original production team) to satisfy the BBFC that the film not only did not infringe the Animals Act but had been designed from the outset not to do so.

hah, i'd never make it as a researcher. i rely too heavily on wikipedia :nono:

I’ve noticed this with the BBFC a few times with regards to the Animals Act. The wording of the act says that something specifically staged for a film isn’t allowed, and that’s what the BBFC looks at when judging whether to cut a scene, but if it’s proved that the filmmakers filmed something that was taking place even if they weren’t there (i.e. not set up for the film), they shouldn’t cut it. But there have been instances when it’s been cut regardless. This is, imo, censorship based not on the law of the land, but on what the BBFC Examiners find acceptable themselves, which doesn’t sit well with me at all.

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Case in point with what’s “legally” allowed.

The fim crew contact someone and say we want a dog, get us one and let’s film you skin it alive while it screams in agony (UK law says it will never pass).

The fim crew stumbles on someone skinning a dog alive while it screams in agony and they record it and use it in their film (UK law says no problem, that’s allowed!)

This is how absurd the Amimals act is .

The rationale behind exempting cruelty that would have happened regardless of the camera’s presence was so that the law wouldn’t inadvertently penalise serious documentaries exposing animal cruelty - and indeed a fair number of wildlife docs in general.

Yes, in the process it created a loophole, but I’m not sure how you could close it without also cracking down on David Attenborough - and in any case the scenario that you outline is rare in the extreme.

(I daresay a real-life equivalent would be the kangaroo hunt in Wake in Fright, which the Australian RSPCA not only firmly endorsed but even urged Ted Kotcheff to make more graphic, in order to draw international attention to what was happening in the lawless outback - although Kotcheff was presumably mindful of the fact that it’s comparatively early in the film and he didn’t want audiences fleeing the cinema in droves.)

Okay let's start again.
Spaghetti,Eastwood,Peckinpah,Bronson or Gritty.....

I'm not up for the 'Oklahoma,home on the range,where the buffalo roam' -'type' western.
Maybe I'm wrong......do these westerns contain violence like the abovementioned suspects?

Hey!
We must be in the same age category! :lol:

My old man was a MASSIVE Eastwood fan.
From I was kneehigh to an arsehole,I was weened on big Clint's westerns.Especially the Leone trilogy.

Audie Murphy and the likes just weren't for me.
I'd rather watch Bill 'Audie' in the Goodies!:lol:

I hated that scene!
Poor wee skippy!

Mikey will give you that tenner in the car park later Dem.......:lol: