Originally Posted by tele1962 (Post 368640)

As I have said a little earlier Blu Ray will show the best and worst of a transfer and it's all down to how this films original elements and transfer was done. The point of HD is getting it to look it's very best but unfortunately some fall well short.
It's usual not a case of how much is system costs but if you see the problems or not, in the case of Tenebrae once you have seen the new transfer there will be no going back.
What I would suggest is getting hold of the old transfer then viewing the new one and see which you prefer.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley (Post 368642)

I'm sure the new Tenebrae will look better than their last effort BUT until this comes out the Arrow version is still at this moment in time equal (according to various blu ray comparison sites.) to the French release. In other words it is the best anyone on the planet has seen it, there is no better release.
Maybe one of you guys have seen a better release and would like to share which one it is........Or shall we just slag it off anyway?

Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs (Post 368644)

Sorry, but even if it is the best release out there at the moment, it's still not great, so yes, if people want to say it's bad, then that's their choice.

Originally Posted by Bringer Of Funerals (Post 368645)

Some people take the piss and say all of Arrow's releases are bad

Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs (Post 368644)

Sorry, but even if it is the best release out there at the moment, it's still not great, so yes, if people want to say it's bad, then that's their choice.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley (Post 368639)

Okay, I just had a look around the web and found this out about CotLD. The BU and Arrow discs are taken from exactly the same hi def master.........exactly the same.
On many forums, like City of the Living Dead – BluRay (Blue Underground vs. Arrow Video) – 10,000 Bullets they actually recommend the Arrow transfer over the BU version. Here you can look at the screenshots from both and if anyone thinks that it is looking like a net curtained bathroom window with a blizzard outside then you are going to have to explain just what you mean as the screen shots prove you're talking out of an orifice other than your mouth...
Perhaps some of you need to look at your equipment and cables before proclaiming something is unwatchable. Now some of you might have 8-12 foot state of the art cinema's that will blow my 6 grand set up (My pride and joy!!) away but the majority of fans won't.
Instead of sitting there desperately looking for some tiny flaw so people can say, "Oh, at one point a line appeared horizontally for 3 seconds at the change of a reel in a 40 year old film. Completely ruined it for me, couldn't watch it anymore, gave me a headache!", why can't we just watch and enjoy the film for what it's meant to be and be happy that we've got the best possible transfer.
Odd idea, I know...;)

Originally Posted by Boo Radley (Post 368647)

Of course it is their choice and they are entitled to state such -but to what exactly are they comparing against? They have the best release of a film in the world and proclaim it rubbish because it doesn't come up to their standard of what is an acceptable transfer but they have never seen it look better ever?

Originally Posted by Stephen@Cult Labs (Post 368651)

Ok, blu-ray was touted as presenting films as close as possible to the quality you would've seen on the original film print, the way the director intended, etc. not "it's a lot better than a vhs or dvd". That's the way I, and a lot of people judge a BD transfer, and a lot don't cut the mustard, Tenebrae being one of them.

Originally Posted by Boo Radley (Post 368639)

Okay, I just had a look around the web and found this out about CotLD. The BU and Arrow discs are taken from exactly the same hi def master.........exactly the same.
On many forums, like City of the Living Dead – BluRay (Blue Underground vs. Arrow Video) – 10,000 Bullets they actually recommend the Arrow transfer over the BU version. Here you can look at the screenshots from both and if anyone thinks that it is looking like a net curtained bathroom window with a blizzard outside then you are going to have to explain just what you mean as the screen shots prove you're talking out of an orifice other than your mouth...
Perhaps some of you need to look at your equipment and cables before proclaiming something is unwatchable. Now some of you might have 8-12 foot state of the art cinema's that will blow my 6 grand set up (My pride and joy!!) away but the majority of fans won't.
Instead of sitting there desperately looking for some tiny flaw so people can say, "Oh, at one point a line appeared horizontally for 3 seconds at the change of a reel in a 40 year old film. Completely ruined it for me, couldn't watch it anymore, gave me a headache!", why can't we just watch and enjoy the film for what it's meant to be and be happy that we've got the best possible transfer.
Odd idea, I know...;)