Well it would be incredible if Night Train Murders was passed uncut. I'm looking forward to the BBFC's decision on this. I would expect cuts of about a minute, or perhaps less.

Many thanks Almar. Have forwarded contact details. :) :)

Yes Night Train Murders really will be a tough 'un for the BBFC. I think we all expected the usual cuts to New York Ripper (though clever editing made the resulting cuts 3 secs shorter and a lot more tidier than the Vipco video) but NTM is a bit of unknown territory really. It was rejected for cinema back in 1976 and hasn't been submitted since. I'm expecting some cuts too though it's very very borderline.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah next in the line of the scissors is Flavia and I have a feeling we'll take 'em Night Train Murders style! As for NTM I'm not sure how it will play out - as long as people stop blaming me for cutting the damn things!

Anyway good to be back and yes sleeves - the bane of my life! Following the sheer horror (especially from the States) I think we'll keep that sleeve - others are up in the air - I'll see where we're at with things and post up stuff when there's something I think likely to upset people in the US... only kidding folks - I need to do more shopping in your country (although I hereby pledge NEVER to take the Greyhound EVER again!)

Almar

Cheers Almar, I have a copy though - so keep it for a rainy day :)

NTM will be fine... Sure it's crude, but compared to a certain 'snip-snip' scene from Hostel Two I think it'll be okay.

I'm about 63% sure that Night Train Murders will receive BBFC edits though I can't see them being major or lengthy ones. Alas I have far less hope for Flavia but it would be a pleasure to be proved wrong.

It will be interesting to see just how much the BBFC require to be removed from NTM simply because it gives Shameless an idea as to how far along the line the UK censors have come and what sort of thing may be cut from future releases. Under Ferman the film would likely have been rejected completely or heavily cut indeed.

No one blames you Almar for cutting the films. It's simply the law alas and although we don't have to agree with it there's nowt we can do. The plus is that, cut or not (and many of these films will make it uncut and even restored a la Killer Nun etc), it will give people a chance to get hold of some of the more obscure titles.

Well I can always have a rake about and send you a random horror - I might even have a copy of the worst horror film ever made...:ack:

Phantom Of Death was originally cut by Ferman (18 secs though I don't know the cuts details) and is now passed complete. Ditto for Killer Nun. Even New York Ripper managed to retrieve 3 seconds because the edits were done far better than the Vipco one.

Very often if the cuts are made exactly as per requested by the BBFC the length can be minimal. Vipco used to cut great chunks out of their bloody films because they couldn't be bothered to edit properly. Their diabolical releases of Eaten Alive and Cannibal Ferox were pre-cut to the point of incoherence and completely worthless. Especially when some of the original cuts would have been waived if resubmitted now (they did the same with Night Of The Demon and I haven't forgiven them for this). :(

Lol, do your worst boyo!

I think it's the genital stabbing/murder of "Lisa" in Night Train Murders that is likely to prove problematic with the BBFC although admittedly the scene does lack certain detail ie you see the knife going in but not actualy making contact. So you never know it might just scrape through in the end. I can't see anything else being cut. The film as a whole is quite restrained in terms of what it does show.