More like an exclusive re-edited print without BBFC cuts.....

So it's pre cut then with extra bits added.

'Distributor-edited' by the look of it. No idea if BBFC saw the full XXX print.

According to the website, it was passed with no cuts made and rated 18 due to 'strong sex and one scene of sexual violence'. I don't think it's the sort of thing that would be cut before submission as, with a description like that, I doubt there's the sort of material that the BBFC would object to.

But isn't it the XXX version without the XXX scenes?

Seem that way -- my mistake. Maybe the XXX version would only have been passed with R18 certificate, so that's why it was slightly trimmed.

To be honest, I'm not too bothered as I haven't seen the film and would be unlikely to import it. As such, a Shameless release is extremely welcome.

Like I said before I'll be getting it anyway, gots to keep the Shameless dvd's in uniform.:dance:

I'll be getting it too although the shelf that currently holds my Shameless collection is gradually running out of room. I don't know what I'll do in about five discs time -- maybe move them to another shelf and reorganise my room?

The XXX version wouldn't have been eligible for an R18 rating as it isn't a sex work. It would possibly have received cuts for an 18, so the new Shameless edit appears to be a compromise version between the two.

Just when you think one problem with the BBFC has been amply highlighted, another one comes along! Why do they have no capacity to deal with sexual scenes in a movie that isn't a pornographic film? Again, it's absolute madness that makes a mockery of their position. I hang my head in despair.

The R18 rating was introduced exclusively for sexual works only (ie hardcore pornography). The Beast In Space wouldn't have been eligible for it (just as Caligula wasn't).

As they'd received the XXX version the only choice Shameless had would have been to submit it for an 18 where it would possibly have received cuts. It's been a while since I last saw the XXX print so I can't remember how explicit or problematic it would have been. Instead they seem to have toned it down themselves and made a composite print.

Could it really be more explicit than Caligula? If it is, then the version with minor cuts will still be pretty full on.

Yes it would have been interesting to see what the BBFC would have made of the strong version.

There's only one sex scene in the xxx version anyways - no big loss! :)

I have the XXX version but it will take ages to find it (as usual). :ohwell:

When compared to Caligula (namely the final orgy scene) how explicit do you find the scene Phil?

I don´t really see the point in releasing films that have some cuts in it, no matter how minor they are, since there are LOTS of uncut versions of it around the world that could easily be imported. One coming out here in sweden soon.

Better to release movies that can get through FULLY uncut.
Sorry, but no matter how cool the shameless covers are, I wouldn´t buy an cut version of it.

It isn't cut. It's basically a longer version of the US unrated version.

I don't mind if there is a slight cut to an orgy seen if it means that I can easily see a film that I otherwise would not have even heard of.

I have e-mailed the BBFC about the slightly strange position where films can be too sexually explicit for an 18 certificate, but not explicit enough (i.e. pornography) for an R18. Seems barmy.

Ah cool!

Sorry, I misunderstood.
I thought it was missing the XXX stuff ;)

Can´t be as filthy as Caligula can it? That one got through uncut. And

Tame and unprofessional!

The people who filmed Caligula knew how to film sex, Beast in Space has an insert that more than fits that title, no skill what-so ever, just point and shoot the genitals! :lol:

:confused:

The R18 applies to hardcore pornography only. Their primary purpose is 'sexual arousal or stimulation' (BBFC quote) and these titles can only be sold in licensed sex shops. The Beast In Space therefore doesn't qualify, as it isn't a hardcore sex film. It's an exploitation movie with hardcore inserts.

Strong sex is allowed in an 18 provided the film is 'not a sex work' and there is 'contextual justification'. The Beast In Space would have met this criteria without problems. It would have been up to the BBFC to decide just how explicit the material was for an 18, bearing in mind that the movie itself is an exploitation film.

I wouldn't like anyone shooting my genitals, thank you very much. :eek: :lol:

It doesn't sound too bad though the BBFC would view it as an exploitation film and treated it accordingly. Hard to say how the XXX version would have fared. Probably not too well.

:lol:

It's ugly anyway, so Shameless have done everyone a favor by not submitting it! Satan's Baby Doll has a little more style to it's hardcore material however! This is just... sloppy!! :rofl:

I agree with Philleh,the XXX footage are inserts and have really nothing to do with the movie.
It's not like the footage was shot when the movie was made (like Satan's Baby Doll).
The process of inserting hardcore in a regular movie to target another audience was very common at some time and is really absurd when one looks at it now.

Surely The Beast In Space itself is devoid of "XXX" content. The "XXX" stuff was not part of the original script/directorial vision but inserted as a money-making scheme.

Thus Shameless are offering us Brescia's uncut The Beast In Space with extra footage, surely?

The XXX scenes are inserts, they were clearly shot later on.

Well, this certainly puts a different spin on things as you certainly seem to know more about the film than I do. It seems then that the Shameless release of Beast in Space is just about as good as there is in terms of film content, but I'm quite interested in the extra features and whether it comes with a poster, as Satan's Baby Doll does.

Just going by the trailer, which I saw on the Satan's Baby Doll DVD, it looks like a fun romp and another enjoyable piece of Euro sleaze.

The big robot is hilarious and the beast's guard look like they're from the Jimmy Saville fan club.:lol:

Does this one come with a reversible sleeve?

Yeah I was wondering that too.....


XXX Inserts do bugger all for a movie.Literally.:)

All recent Shameless releases have a reversible sleeve,so I'm certain this will have one too. ;)

I hope so -- I want to see what the alternate artwork is. My guess is the Italian VHS cover, but maybe it's something from left field -- I suppose only Almar and those higher up know what's going on -- I don't.

This is quite snazzy.....

A variation on that would be good, and I like your caption "Ride a Cock Horse"!

I have the xxx version - not that great - but could well be tempted with this artwork

Now that's a nice poster!:cool:

Yeah, I like that too. :nod:

Any reverse art for this or Love Goddess Of The Cannibals yet?

Stills time...





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