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MrBarlow 27th April 2021 07:08 PM

To be honest and I may get some stick for this Fantasy Island wasn't great nor bad either, Katie Holmes wasnt bad either in Brahms: The Boy 2. But would agree about Anne Hathaway in The Witches, that is a film that shouldn't have been made and how they made it im surprised it wasn't mentioned in the top worst films

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Nosferatu@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nosferatu42 (Post 650922)
I liked Shape of water, wasn't that impressed by Birdman and the other two don't interest me.

You're missing out because both are superb films. The Coen brothers are brilliant filmmakers and No Country for Old Men is one of the Best Westerns made in the last 50 years. It's probably worth watching just for Javier Bardem's exceptional portrayal of Anton Chigurh. Cormac McCarthy's novel on which the film is based is well worth reading as well.

Although The Departed isn't Martin Scorsese's best film, and perhaps not as good as the great Infernal Affairs trilogy either, it's a superbly acted and masterfully created crime thriller.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:34 PM

I'm also of the opinion that the Oscars are now completely underwhelming.

Mainly because the films nominated are so worthy rather than genuinely great films.

Look at the 90's for example. The best picture winners were such a diverse bunch. Winners like The Silence of the Lambs, Unforgiven, Braveheart, American Beauty and Titanic.

However the ones that didn't win are just as good and in many cases better - LA Confidential, The Sixth Sense, Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, Fargo, Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, JFK, Goodfellas...

Basically i think Hollywood is in a terminal decline and films the quality of which i've listed simply aren't getting made anymore because of the need to make money meaning franchises just keep getting bigger and bigger at the expense of what i would call classier movies.

Basically there are too many superhero films cluttering up movie theatres.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs (Post 650974)
You're missing out because both are superb films. The Coen brothers are brilliant filmmakers and No Country for Old Men is one of the Best Westerns made in the last 50 years. It's probably worth watching just for Javier Bardem's exceptional portrayal of Anton Chigurh. Cormac McCarthy's novel on which the film is based is well worth reading as well.

Although The Departed isn't Martin Scorsese's best film, and perhaps not as good as the great Infernal Affairs trilogy either, it's a superbly acted and masterfully created crime thriller.

The Departed had zero competition when it won in 2006, same goes for No Country the year after.

2008 was a joke for nominated films but 2009 faired better with Hurt Locker, Avatar and District 9.

Demdike@Cult Labs 27th April 2021 10:53 PM

Just to finish off.

It's in later years that Oscar has felt the need to dish out the best picture award to 'worthy' films.

Take 2013 - Was 12 Years a Slave really better than Captain Phillips, Gravity or The Wolf of Wall Street?

I would say Wolf is by far the more popular and loved film.

2015 - Spotlight. Seriously? Better than The Revenant and Mad Max Fury Road. Definitely not but it's certainly more worthy.

Nos mentioned The Shape of Water. Certainly it's original so i'll give it that but Dunkirk was also nominated.

Nosferatu@Cult Labs 28th April 2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 650978)
Just to finish off.

It's in later years that Oscar has felt the need to dish out the best picture award to 'worthy' films.

Take 2013 - Was 12 Years a Slave really better than Captain Phillips, Gravity or The Wolf of Wall Street?

I would say Wolf is by far the more popular and loved film.

2015 - Spotlight. Seriously? Better than The Revenant and Mad Max Fury Road. Definitely not but it's certainly more worthy.

Nos mentioned The Shape of Water. Certainly it's original so i'll give it that but Dunkirk was also nominated.

It's a good question on the 2013 Oscars.

Gravity was an exceptional piece of filmmaking and The Wolf of Wall Street was also incredibly good. I thought – and still think – [D]12 Years a Slave[/B] is an incredibly powerful and important film, a compelling story which was brilliantly realised by Steve McQueen.

I think it's a better film than Captain Phillips and The Wolf of Wall Street but very tough to compare with Gravity because they are so different.


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