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Forum: Arrow Archives 7th June 2010, 12:16 AM
Replies: 173
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Posted By Libretio
Because it was (probably) engineered by the...

Because it was (probably) engineered by the filmmakers themselves for the recording of a film. That's an absolutely crucial difference and one that the BBFC applies as part of its legal criteria.
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Forum: Arrow Archives 7th June 2010, 12:00 AM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
If the BBFC decides to retain the cut in INFERNO:...

If the BBFC decides to retain the cut in INFERNO:

I was wondering if, instead of cutting the scene, Arrow could either pixellate or otherwise obscure the offending shot? It still amounts to...
Forum: Arrow Archives 6th June 2010, 07:31 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
Yes, it is grotesque, but it still wasn't...

Yes, it is grotesque, but it still wasn't perpetrated for the sake of entertainment. And most of the atrocities were filmed by the liberators, not by the Nazis themselves. There is a WORLD of...
Forum: Arrow Archives 6th June 2010, 03:05 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
It's cruel in the sense that the mouse will...

It's cruel in the sense that the mouse will hardly 'enjoy' being eaten alive. Nor will the salmon, for that matter. I'm not arguing that such things aren't the natural way of things, I'm arguing that...
Forum: Arrow Archives 6th June 2010, 02:34 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
I fully appreciate that impulse, and I have to...

I fully appreciate that impulse, and I have to admit, if the BBFC decides to press ahead with the cut in INFERNO, they'll have to formulate a pretty good reason for it in the light of remarks made...
Forum: Arrow Archives 6th June 2010, 02:14 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
You cannot equate animal abuse for the purposes...

You cannot equate animal abuse for the purposes of entertainment with documentary footage of a historical event. One was created for the purposes of a night out at the pictures, while the other...
Forum: Arrow Archives 6th June 2010, 12:50 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
But as a vegeterian, don't you think the animal...

But as a vegeterian, don't you think the animal deserves better than to have its death agonies preserved on film for all time, just because "cutting it won't make any difference"? If it doesn't make...
Forum: Arrow Archives 6th June 2010, 12:36 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
It's not about treating people like 'morons',...

It's not about treating people like 'morons', it's about taking a moral stand on an issue where filmmakers cross the line into harming living creatures for nothing more important than a film. We may...
Forum: Arrow Archives 5th June 2010, 02:28 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
By the way, I'm told the octopus scene in OLDBOY...

By the way, I'm told the octopus scene in OLDBOY was filmed three times, twice with dead creatures, and once with a live animal. The actor didn't feel the 'dead' versions were effective enough, so he...
Forum: Arrow Archives 5th June 2010, 02:23 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
As far as 'guilt' was concerned, I was speaking...

As far as 'guilt' was concerned, I was speaking in general terms. But in an earlier post, you said:

As far as I'm concerned, censorship white-washes history and leaves these filmmakers with no...
Forum: Arrow Archives 5th June 2010, 12:52 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
Trust me, filmmakers and distributors are more...

Trust me, filmmakers and distributors are more than aware of the BBFC's stance on this matter, and the Board's website provides ample evidence of the cuts they've applied to films over the years,...
Forum: Arrow Archives 5th June 2010, 12:47 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
Cutting animal cruelty doesn't negate history, it...

Cutting animal cruelty doesn't negate history, it simply removes the visual representation of what is now considered an immoral and illegal act. Once a film crosses the line into offering the...
Forum: Arrow Archives 4th June 2010, 02:18 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
Yes, I'd like to see the BBFC include animal...

Yes, I'd like to see the BBFC include animal abuse (simulated or otherwise) outlined in its consumer advice. If the advice clearly says: "Contains strong violence, language and simulated animal...
Forum: Arrow Archives 4th June 2010, 12:52 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
Calum makes the valid point that censorship of...

Calum makes the valid point that censorship of such material - no matter how old - sends a message to filmmakers that such behaviour is unacceptable in a civilised society. Censoring the...
Forum: Arrow Archives 3rd June 2010, 03:28 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 31,290
Posted By Libretio
Before entering this debate, let me make my...

Before entering this debate, let me make my position clear up-front: I loathe and detest animal cruelty with an absolute passion, and I applaud the BBFC's stance on removing such material from our...
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