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wayfarer 22nd June 2010 01:44 PM

The Evil Dead Saga
 
It does what it says on the tin, or hopefully will do; a thread designed to discuss The Evil Dead in all it's forms whether it be movies, games or comic books - anything.

Splatterdragon73 23rd June 2010 09:40 AM

Imo TED is a perfect example of brilliance on a budget. Sam Raimi and his creative crew may have had little money to work with but they made up for lack of financing with a flourish of resourcefulness.

Sure, The film isn't exactly an original concept with it's teens-in-peril plot, slack script and barely passable performances. And don't forget those hairdo discrepancies and 'Fake Shemp' usage! But i personally couldn't care less about these shortcomings as i think TED still delivers in abundance on atmosphere, scares and gloriously gratuitous gore. Not to mention Raimi's dynamic, frenetic visual style and apt use of editing and sound.

There's no doubt that some of the FX has aged very poorly and was even lacklustre back when the movie was first released. But other onscreen graphic acts still look good even now in the face of overexposed CGI.

Joseph LoDuca's sinister strings still send a shiver up the spine and i truly believe Raimi's devilish demonic delight still boasts the scariest twilight woodlands i've seen on film.

And remember TED was originally rejected by various American releasing outfits and first found fame on U.K. shores. Us Blighty based horror devotees embraced the movie when U.S. studio suits turned their backs on it.

Within The Woods is a minor gem too imo and i wish Raimi would relinquish his rigid grip on the rights to this Deadite dry run and bless us with a new legit lease of life for this short but superior slice of Kandarian carnage.:)

wayfarer 24th June 2010 12:05 PM

As reported elsewhere, I saw The Evil Dead on video rental upon first release. I had seen some stills in the mag DVD World (remember it, with the glamour models on the cover?). The black and white still of Cheryl in the basement, drooling black blood really caught my imagination, along with the famous Stephen King quote; "A Black Rainbow of Terror" or something similar.
Looking at it now, the makeup FX were very low rent but they worked well enough at the time and I'll still take em over CGI nonsense.

MikeOutWest and I first saw EDII at a screening in Gants Hill of all places. All I remember is crying with laughter. It tickled us initially; Ash and the plates for example. It was the sort of humour that would inspire the League of Gentlemen. The only thing wrong, for me was the make-up effects. They looked too rubbery. The first appearance of a possessed Ed looked superb and in keeping with the first movie. Then, the puppet head they used for the hair eating looked horribly phoney. I preferred the latex and cornflakes make up from TED.

AOD went too far down the comedy route for my liking. It's entertaining but far removed from the original tone. You can see Raimi's progression towards big budget blockbusters like Spider-Man though. Ash had gone from a bit of scaredy-cat to an indifferent Mad Max like character. I preferred the K-Mart ending too.

Splatterdragon73 24th June 2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 88535)
the famous Stephen King quote; "A Black Rainbow of Terror" or something similar.
The only thing wrong with TEDII, for me was the make-up effects. They looked too rubbery.
AOD went too far down the comedy route for my liking. It's entertaining but far removed from the original tone.

"The ultimate experience in gruelling terror!" according to King way back when. Maybe TED is not quite that scary now but still capable of delivering the jolts imo.

As with the first film some of the sequel's FX have stood the test of time and some haven't. When the Deadites are damaged or destroyed i still prefer watching the blood lossage of TED instead of the coloured body fluids of Raimi's riotous follow-up. Some of TEDII is no doubt darkly funny but i personally would've kept it all hardcore horror. I do admit though some of Dan Hicks' onscreen suffering is hilarious.

"Get the axe, we'll kill it when it comes back!".:lol:

I agree about AOD and the movie's dismal failure at the box-office seems to suggest other fans wanted more scares and splatter rather than daftness and dust. The third entry is quite entertaining if taken as a horror comedy in it's own right. But as an addition to TED canon Raimi's calamitous combo of stop-motion and slapstick just doesn't cut the mustard imo.:)

dis 5th July 2010 05:55 PM

loved it,love it and always love it! shoestring budget,5 actors,great story and effects-brilliant!
shame he made part 2 as think it would have been better leaving it has a 1 off like madman,the burning and many others!
think we need a version that contains the evil dead AND within the woods! think someone has,on here i believe?

wayfarer 6th July 2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dis (Post 90492)
loved it,love it and always love it! shoestring budget,5 actors,great story and effects-brilliant!
shame he made part 2 as think it would have been better leaving it has a 1 off like madman,the burning and many others!
think we need a version that contains the evil dead AND within the woods! think someone has,on here i believe?

I have a Limited Edition German Big Box (?) version of "Tanz Der Teufel" that includes a very ropey version of Within the Woods. It's a VHS transfer with all the damage included:loco:

I may well have to put it on ebay to get some funds for more discs, the rate I've been going.:nod:

dis 6th July 2010 05:23 PM

dont do it! sounds very rare.a must have in your collection!

wayfarer 9th July 2010 09:04 AM

it looks like I'll be spending out on yet another version of The Evil Dead!:clap:

Evil Dead Blu-Ray news

I always though that putting a 5.1 soundtrack on this movie was like putting a quartz wristwatch on a caveman, so I'll be intrigued at this new transfer and lossless sound.:rockon:

Splatterdragon73 9th July 2010 12:11 PM

Sony is soon to be issuing TED on BR on British retail shelves but there's no mention of this release having a full frame transfer. Just the controversial 1.85:1 widescreen print which i don't particurlarly approve of. Of course, yours truly being such a big fan of the film i'll probably end up buying both BR editions.

I only hope Raimi reinstates the infamous lightning strike shot this time around!;)

wayfarer 9th July 2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Splatterdragon73 (Post 91132)
I only hope Raimi reinstates the infamous lightning strike shot this time around!;)


We can only hope. That reminds me, I recall seeing Blade Runner when it was first released on VHS rental. It was cropped and couldn't work out a sound effect at the beginning. It wasn't until years later when a Pan and Scan version was on the telly that I saw it was a lightning strike:lol:

BioZombie 9th July 2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 91093)
it looks like I'll be spending out on yet another version of The Evil Dead!:clap:

Evil Dead Blu-Ray news

I always though that putting a 5.1 soundtrack on this movie was like putting a quartz wristwatch on a caveman, so I'll be intrigued at this new transfer and lossless sound.:rockon:

Anyone have any info about whether this is going to be reigon free or not?

Splatterdragon73 9th July 2010 12:35 PM

Even if the U.S. BR is region locked i'm personally still having a copy!

A region-free BR player will simply have to be mine in due course.:)

wayfarer 9th July 2010 01:28 PM

No info on TED just yet, but this is a fantastic resource for most discs;

http://bluray.liesinc.net/

Sorry, Eyeborgs has been region locked. So sad:lol:

Splatterdragon73 10th July 2010 01:01 PM

Nice one, Wayfarer and any chance you can send me this link in a PM?

I've got a feeling the site in question may come in very handy for yours truly!

Cheers if you can help me out.:)

Stephen@Cult Labs 11th July 2010 10:16 AM

It would seem that Anchor Bay/Starz are region locking new films and older films are region free (or were). Guess we'll find out if that's still true with the release of The Evil Dead.

Splatterdragon73 11th July 2010 10:25 AM

If i had my way every DVD and BR release would be region free!

Regarding TED in HD, if Sony's U.K. version only boasts the widescreen print then i'm definitely going for the ABUS edition. Region locked or not. There's no way i'm being saddled with that far too 'tight' looking 1.85:1 transfer. I hate watching Raimi's grand gorefest this way!:mmph:

dangerous_jamie 16th July 2010 11:35 AM

I've been waiting patiently for ED2 to get the lovely ED 3 disc treatment. Will it ever come?

Also, does this series have more releases than any other? It's got to be between this and Romero's Dead series.

Splatterdragon73 16th July 2010 01:54 PM

I've not long pre-ordered TED on U.S. BR.

Just covering myself based on the notion that the U.K. HD release seems to have dispensed with the option to view the film's full frame print.;)

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 4th August 2010 06:47 PM

All three evil dead films are great,but I prefer the original over the sequels.

Gritty,raw and electrifying,not to mention scary back in the day!

Classic!:clap:

dis 4th August 2010 07:35 PM

GOT TO AGREE THERE! when i first seen it,it was the best ever horror id seen!

Splatterdragon73 5th August 2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reaper Man (Post 95660)
All three evil dead films are great,but I prefer the original over the sequels.

Gritty,raw and electrifying,not to mention scary back in the day!

Classic!:clap:

Definitely!

A perfect example of brilliance on a budget.

Raimi and co may have had only miniscule money to work with but the director's dynamic visual style and frenetic editing really do TED justice.

In the hands of a less visionary filmmaker the film could've ended up as just another low-budget atrocity.:)

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 5th August 2010 07:41 PM

Funnily enough,after reading this thread last night,I watched EVIL DEAD 2 on Blu Ray.
It looked and sounded mighty fine. (Plenty grain again Steve.:))

But,obviously it's a Three Stooges parody,and falls into line behind the original.

Roll on the BD of THE EVIL DEAD! :woot:

Stephen@Cult Labs 5th August 2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reaper Man (Post 95805)
Funnily enough,after reading this thread last night,I watched EVIL DEAD 2 on Blu Ray.
It looked and sounded mighty fine. (Plenty grain again Steve.:))

Beautiful eh? :tongue1::lol:

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 5th August 2010 07:50 PM

Grain-o-meter-7! :lol:


Hopefully the Grain-o-meter on the original will be 10 eh? ;)

Daemonia 6th August 2010 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper Man (Post 95805)
Funnily enough,after reading this thread last night,I watched EVIL DEAD 2 on Blu Ray.
It looked and sounded mighty fine. (Plenty grain again Steve.:))

But,obviously it's a Three Stooges parody,and falls into line behind the original.

Roll on the BD of THE EVIL DEAD! :woot:

Which release was that? The UK or US Blu-ray? I'll take your recommendation and grab a copy. :)

wayfarer 6th August 2010 09:25 AM

Irritatingly, the US BD is Region A locked:mmph:

Stephen@Cult Labs 6th August 2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wayfarer (Post 95881)
Irritatingly, the US BD is Region A locked:mmph:

The Evil Dead or Evil Dead 2? Just set my player to region B and ED2 is definitely region free.

Daemonia 6th August 2010 11:07 AM

Yes, steveoj, I was given to understand that the US release of ED2 was region-free.

I imagine that Anchor Bay US have had to region-lock The Evil Dead because of Sony releasing it in the UK (and Europe too, I would imagine). I don't have a problem with that actually, Sony have a right to protect their product and investment. Hopefuilly Sony will deliver a comparative package. I don't see why not - both companies are probably utilising the same materials. :nod:

Stephen@Cult Labs 6th August 2010 11:15 AM

Looking at the BBFC website, it seems that both the Anchor Bay and Sony releases are pretty much identical.

BioZombie 6th August 2010 11:41 AM

Im really looking forward to the Evil Dead on bluray. Hopefully Sony will give us the fuill frame version in the UK, and I'm also praying that its been treated as well as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre for its first high definition appearance.

Daemonia 6th August 2010 12:05 PM

It wouldn't really be too difficult for Sony to give us both versions - after all both versions have been seen and passed by the BBFC for Anchor Bay UK, so they won't need to stump up the extra money for the BBFC to look at them.

wayfarer 6th August 2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevoj (Post 95888)
The Evil Dead or Evil Dead 2? Just set my player to region B and ED2 is definitely region free.

I was referring to the new TED release, not ED2. I am going by the Axel Music website that's normally very reliable.

BioZombie 6th August 2010 12:15 PM

In the coming features section of Sony Pictures UK there is a page for their Evil Dead blu-ray. No mention of a full frame version included.

THE EVIL DEAD

the blob 6th August 2010 02:46 PM

It's possible Sony might be doing a 16 x 9 version only under the misguided notion that, if there's a widescreen version, people won't want to watch a 4:3 version on their new HDTV's. Not saying that's a definite but it's possible. I would have thought someone there would know and understand it's history enough to realise the importance of the 4:3 version.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 6th August 2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Daemonia (Post 95863)
Which release was that? The UK or US Blu-ray? I'll take your recommendation and grab a copy. :)

Optimum's UK release mate.:)

It's got the commentaries and a doc.:nod:

Stephen@Cult Labs 7th August 2010 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioZombie (Post 95918)
In the coming features section of Sony Pictures UK there is a page for their Evil Dead blu-ray. No mention of a full frame version included.

THE EVIL DEAD

Looks like it's the Anchor Bay version for me.

Although Axel Music says Region A, it says underneath that it will most likely be region free. Most of AB's catalogue titles are region free. Evil Dead II was, even though it was released by a different company (Optimum) in the UK. I'm sure we'll find out nearer the release date.

wayfarer 7th August 2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevoj (Post 96071)
Looks like it's the Anchor Bay version for me.

Although Axel Music says Region A, it says underneath that it will most likely be region free. Most of AB's catalogue titles are region free. Evil Dead II was, even though it was released by a different company (Optimum) in the UK. I'm sure we'll find out nearer the release date.

Bugger! i can't have read that AxelMusic entry correctly. Sorry for the confusion!:o

Splatterdragon73 7th August 2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper Man (Post 95994)
Optimum's UK release mate.:)

It's got the commentaries and a doc.:nod:

I have the ABUS TED2 BR and it has an additional featurette over Optimum's release. Although i believe the latter edition may have superior audio quality.:)

Daemonia 7th August 2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper Man (Post 95994)
Optimum's UK release mate.:)

It's got the commentaries and a doc.:nod:

Nice one! Cheers, Reaps. I'll be having myself one of these then. :nod:

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 7th August 2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevoj (Post 96071)
Looks like it's the Anchor Bay version for me.

Although Axel Music says Region A, it says underneath that it will most likely be region free. Most of AB's catalogue titles are region free. Evil Dead II was, even though it was released by a different company (Optimum) in the UK. I'm sure we'll find out nearer the release date.

If it's Region free,then I'll be having both.

THE EVIL DEAD is another film I collect in all guises from around the world.:)


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