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Linbro 17th December 2013 02:11 AM

Horror films used to have you identify with the victim, to feel the fear of being chased/stalked by a psycho, haunted by a ghost etc, etc - all from the safety of your cinema seat or home lounge. These 'extreme' films are different, they invite you to take part in the torture, killing, degradation. 'Torture Porn' is a very apt name for this stuff, even if it is over used.
People always say 'I have the right to watch anything I want', which is fine, but I find it disturbing that this type of film is being made, and that there's a hungry audience for it.

gag 17th December 2013 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Linbro (Post 383536)
Horror films used to have you identify with the victim, to feel the fear of being chased/stalked by a psycho, haunted by a ghost etc, etc - all from the safety of your cinema seat or home lounge. These 'extreme' films are different, they invite you to take part in the torture, killing, degradation. 'Torture Porn' is a very apt name for this stuff, even if it is over used.
People always say 'I have the right to watch anything I want', which is fine, but I find it disturbing that this type of film is being made, and that there's a hungry audience for it.

totaly agree youre last statement is kind of what im trying to say but worded different.

Make Them Die Slowly 17th December 2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Linbro (Post 383536)
Horror films used to have you identify with the victim, to feel the fear of being chased/stalked by a psycho, haunted by a ghost etc, etc - all from the safety of your cinema seat or home lounge. These 'extreme' films are different, they invite you to take part in the torture, killing, degradation. 'Torture Porn' is a very apt name for this stuff, even if it is over used.
People always say 'I have the right to watch anything I want', which is fine, but I find it disturbing that this type of film is being made, and that there's a hungry audience for it.

Is it any different to identifying with action heroes as they blast away faceless bad guys?

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th December 2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Make Them Die Slowly (Post 383550)
Is it any different to identifying with action heroes as they blast away faceless bad guys?

In a way as they are bad guys. :nod: Rather than the person you are supposed to be identifying with.

Perhaps if it were a woman torturing men that would be less controversial.

Daemonia 17th December 2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 383552)
Perhaps if it were a woman torturing men that would be less controversial.

Not necessarily - it's probably more controversial. Just look at the troubled censorship history that Boy Meets Girl had to endure before we finally got to see it!

JAMIOUSE 17th December 2013 11:07 AM

So Boo what happens in the rest of the film? I have no intention of ever buying or watching it but I'm interested in your sypnosis, I've tried to watch August Underground before many years ago but just couldn't bear it. To me it was pointless, no plot, no script and no justification for it even existing beyond possibily giving a few people with issues a thrill.
Have you dared put the disc back in the PS3?

Boo Radley 17th December 2013 05:18 PM

Okay, I feel the need to let you all know how I feel about these sort of films as I started the thread and don't really want you all to think I'm some rabid masturbatory voyeur that gets my kicks from watching the worst films I can find....
But that is partly true!! ;)
I started collecting videos back in '86 and always had a love for horror. I was overwhelmingly drawn to the Video Nasties and their ilk. I wanted to see everything. Snuff became almost an obsession and a friend and I went on a 12 year hunt to find a true snuff movie. That's a whole 'nuther story, there! My attitude was one of a young headstrong boy in that, "How dare any one tell me what I can or can't watch." like most young guys. I would go to video shops and buy whatever I could but it was the film fairs, like at Watford in the early '90's where it all opened up for me.
Guys would come up to me and say, "Whoah!! Have you seen Nekromantik/ Beautiful Girl Hunter/ Bunman/ 10 Monologues (Add your own extreme '90's title here), it is the most evil/depraved/banned film EVER!" :eek:
For me it's almost like a challenge. Bells goes off in my head. The Most Evil Film Ever...it has to be mine! My stomach would flip over and a feeling of almost awe would sweep over me. Wow! The most evil film ever and I got a copy of it. :cool:
Sitting at home, with the curtains drawn, on it would go. Remember this was the same time that the Daily Mail and all were howling to ban the sadist videos. People were going to jail for owning a copy of Nightmares in a Damaged Brain, they would shit themselves blind if they saw this!!
It was a feeling of owning the forbidden. Collectors of many things know this drug. It is a wondrous feeling that I lack the vocabulary to describe adequately but if you've ever felt it, you'll never forget it. And it's addictive!
But then you get older and wiser and your tastes mellow somewhat. But every now and then something will pop up, like this, and my pulse races again.

All the films I mentioned at the beginning I own (Plus many more!) but all of them I have only watched once each. They are not something I generally go back to for another innings. They are such vile, disgusting, over the top pieces of filth that even I sit there and think how the :censored: did anyone want to make this in the first place. But I MUST OWN IT!! :loco:

The only film I've watched that actually disturbed me for a few days after viewing it was A Serbian Film. I have shit far worse than that but perhaps because I have a young son or maybe I'm just getting sensitive in my old age, but it is another one I have never gone back to.
So, in conclusion, I guess I'm trying to say is, "Yeah, I'm sick but I'm not too bad.....really!":)

Boo Radley 17th December 2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JAMIOUSE (Post 383560)
So Boo what happens in the rest of the film? I have no intention of ever buying or watching it but I'm interested in your sypnosis, I've tried to watch August Underground before many years ago but just couldn't bear it. To me it was pointless, no plot, no script and no justification for it even existing beyond possibily giving a few people with issues a thrill.
Have you dared put the disc back in the PS3?

Saturday night the house is mine!! Sunday I'll let you know!!:nod:

Demdike@Cult Labs 17th December 2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo Radley (Post 383583)
Okay, I'm some rabid masturbatory voyeur that gets my kicks from watching the worst films I can find....
that is true!! ;)
Bells goes off in my head. My stomach would flip over
Sitting at home, with the curtains drawn, sadist videos. Damaged Brain
It was a feeling of vile, disgusting, I have shit far worse I have a young son "Yeah, I'm sick .....really!":)

Well you said it Boo. :D

Boo Radley 17th December 2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs (Post 383588)
Well you said it Boo. :D

I like that! You know me too well...:pound::lol:


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