The Beyond –The Technical Debate

[Inspector Tanzi]

Originally Posted by Jonny

I'd say it was definately shot in colour.

I'm with you on that one, there's no doubt about it. But the fact of the matter is that it was intentionally changed to sepia, not Black and White.

[bigandya]

Originally Posted by Inspector Tanzi

I'm with you on that one, there's no doubt about it. But the fact of the matter is that it was intentionally changed to sepia, not Black and White.

100% agree.

- Originally shot in colour
- Colour "adjusted" (if that is the correct word) to sepiatone to suit the atmospheric requirements of Fulci's vision

Is there anybody who can point to any release of this film anywhere in the world on any format since its original release with the pre title sequence in black and white? I'm talking tape, film, laser or DVD.

[springjack]

Originally Posted by bigandya

Is there anybody who can point to any release of this film anywhere in the world on any format since its original release with the pre title sequence in black and white? I'm talking tape, film, laser or DVD.

The Arrow review test disc...

I´d buy one of those test discs just for the sake of them being unique.

[nekromantik]

glad to see Arrow are investigating this

[bigandya]

Originally Posted by springjack

The Arrow review test disc...

I´d buy one of those test discs just for the sake of them being unique.

You could always watch the pre title sequence with the colour turned down on the official Blu Ray instead.....

[R-T-C Tim]

Originally Posted by springjack

The Arrow review test disc...

I´d buy one of those test discs just for the sake of them being unique.

Unlike those misprinted 20p, I doubt these are going to be selling for thousands...

[tollickd]

If arrow has already had the discs with the b&w part pressed do youvthibk they would add it in the release as a added bonus? it would be a shame to waste these discs

[Doris Karloff]

Originally Posted by Doris Karloff

Is this still going to make the intended street date with the extra work that needs to be done?

Anyone? Please?

[dvdrenato]

Originally Posted by bigandya

(...)Is there anybody who can point to any release of this film anywhere in the world on any format since its original release with the pre title sequence in black and white? I'm talking tape, film, laser or DVD.

Yes, there actually was a VHS tape from Vipco in the 90's. There are like 4 different colour versions of that sequence, a few examples...

- Full Colour: German theatrical and 80's to mid-90's VHS releases
- Sepia: Dutch VHS release, US-DVDs (Grindhouse/AB) and releases based on their Master
- Yellow: Italian and Scandinavian DVD releases (both rather "dirty yellow" looking picture, not really the wanted "golden" look)
- B&W: the mentioned Vipco VHS release

So, *if* that test-disc had the pre title sequence in B&W, it would not be the first time a UK company tried that.

I would of course also prefer the original "golden" look (but a nicer, cleaner Yellow than on the Italian and AWE DVDs).

Also what somehow ruined the previous DVD releases in most (if not all) other countries, was the cropped picture. The sides often didn't contain the complete picture information, and especially a *lot* was cropped from the bottom of the picture. I have my hopes for a much more complete picture and framing on the Arrow release.

A few European DVDs I checked also were missing the very first seconds from the beginning, talking about the "HOTEL" sign first shot. It's no big deal, but complete is better.

Any chance that Arrow & Co. come up with some previously totally-unknown and/or Deleted Scenes, that someone has found at his houses attic?

[silverferox]

I hope the issue with the film's overall brightness level will be sorted now.

It's just as essential to the viewing experience as the yellowed intro, given that it affects approx. 90% of the running time...

You know I'll pick up this release anyhoo