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Old 26th August 2023, 11:43 AM
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But *personally* I prefer Alice when he was more atmospheric and didn't have 'shredding guitarists'

I think that the music was better when it was gothic in nature, and didn't need 'a million notes a second' guitarists

Think of it as the difference between Hammers 'Horror Of Dracula' and Eli Roth's 'Hostel' - The horror and sentiment are the same, but one is more 'traditional' and one is 'what is currently in vogue'
Alice life for me began with Kane Roberts and half of the band Winger so atmospherics were well out the window then, (Zipper Catches Skin, my first Alice record doesn't count as i still don't know what that is even though i like it ).
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Old 26th August 2023, 11:47 AM
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Alice life for me began with Kane Roberts and half of the band Winger so atmospherics were well out the window then, (Zipper Catches Skin, my first Alice record doesn't count as i still don't know what that is even though i like it ).
But you are a youngster!

I have older brothers, so the first Alice LP I got was 'Billion Dollar Babies' in the original 'Wallet' sleeve, so *that* is the kind of era I prefer

That's not to say that there have not been some fun releases since them!!
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But you are a youngster!

I have older brothers, so the first Alice LP I got was 'Billion Dollar Babies' in the original 'Wallet' sleeve, so *that* is the kind of era I prefer

That's not to say that there have not been some fun releases since them!!
I was going to counter what you said but then realised i can't really.

Nothing in the years since Welcome to my Nightmare in 75 have matched his output from 71-75.

Trash was a huge commercial success and possibly equaled that period in terms of Alice's popularity along with follow up Hey Stoopid , but overall song quality they aren't as consistent.

Whilst the likes of Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Judas Priest and arguably AC/DC among others have produced works in the 2000's as good as if not better than their so called early heydays, Alice sadly has not. Kiss are also in the Alice bracket.

Don't get me wrong a handful of Alice songs in the years since are just as good as the early output, but it's songs not actual recorded albums.
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Old 26th August 2023, 12:18 PM
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I actually personally think 2003's Eyes of Alice Cooper is a classic album. That's my favourite of the 21st century output. No one was asking but if I had to go for three favourite albums, they would be Killer, Welcome To My Nightmare and From The Inside. No doubt older fans (I'm 49) would be appalled at my top three selection.
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I actually personally think 2003's Eyes of Alice Cooper is a classic album. That's my favourite of the 21st century output. No one was asking but if I had to go for three favourite albums, they would be Killer, Welcome To My Nightmare and From The Inside. No doubt older fans (I'm 49) would be appalled at my top three selection.
Although i've heard all the songs on Killer i've never actually listened to the album as a body of work.

It's one of a series of new reissues i thought i'd pick up at some point.
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Old 26th August 2023, 12:27 PM
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It's a great top 3, I flip between Killer and Love it to Death as the top album, and clearly Welcome to my Nightmare is right up there as well, On the Inside is really up there too, but Billion Dollar Babies (yes, I also have the gatefold wallet LP with the billion dollar note poster, I actually have 2 of them) edges it out.
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Old 26th August 2023, 12:34 PM
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Although i've heard all the songs on Killer i've never actually listened to the album as a body of work.

It's one of a series of new reissues i thought i'd pick up at some point.
*This* is worth getting

It's the first 5 albums, so you get two curios - 'Pretties For You' and 'Easy Action' - two essential releases - 'Love It To Death' and 'Killer'- and one 'polarizing-release-that-might-be-a-classic-or-might-not-be' - 'School's Out'

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It's a great top 3, I flip between Killer and Love it to Death as the top album, and clearly Welcome to my Nightmare is right up there as well, On the Inside is really up there too, but Billion Dollar Babies (yes, I also have the gatefold wallet LP with the billion dollar note poster, I actually have 2 of them) edges it out.
Billion Dollar Babies is another of the three reissues i'd like. I have heard that as i used to have it on gate fold vinyl sadly without the dollar bill. School's Out is the other. Again, one i'd like to get in the newly reissued version with additional live album from the associated tour.

Wonder if the dog has any thoughts on a Christmas present for me?

I do have Welcome to My Nightmare and yes it's brilliant.
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I'm definitely on the side of School's Out not being a classic album, even if it does have some great songs on it.
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Old 26th August 2023, 12:47 PM
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This is the reissued version of Killer i'd like. Here are the songs on disc 2.

Disc: 2
1 Be My Lover (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

2 You Drive Me Nervous (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

3 Yeah, Yeah, Yeah (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

4 I'm Eighteen (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

5 Halo of Flies (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

6 Is It My Body (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

7 Dead Babies (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

8 Killer (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

9 Long Way to Go (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

10 Under My Wheels (Live at Mar Y Sol Pop Festival, Puerto Rico, April 2, 1972)

11 You Drive Me Nervous (Alternate Version)
12 Under My Wheels (Alternate Version)
13 Dead Babies (Alternate Version)

Although it does certainly make more sense getting the early box set Susan mentioned as it's £4 less than the reissue and you get four 'free' albums.

The second box set is a no go as i have most of those already so perhaps just get Billion Dollar Babies as the new reissue and the five album set for the others.
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